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To  subscribe to the feed paste this: http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>176</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1171692920575190489</id><published>2012-01-04T11:42:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-04T11:42:47.630-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bit Market</title><content type='html'>Bit Market -- "There's no market for drill bits -- the market is for holes." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In management circles the story is told of the new CEO who took over a 100 year old company that had manufactured drill bits but had been floundering for a decade. The old vice president for marketing, wanting to impress the new chief brought to their first meeting elaborate color charts illustrating the "bit Market" -- detailing the total market for bits, and the company's market share of the "bit market." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the detailed presentation finally ended, all eyes turned to the new CEO who changed the mind set of the company with one dismissive comment: "There is no market for bits...” –there were audible gasps around the table followed by long pause, then the new CEO finished, “the market is for holes." Pausing a few moments for the thought to sink in, then the CEO stood to his feet and dismissed the meeting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result of that single meeting, and the dramatic way the new CEO introduced a different style of thinking. From then on the company would look for "ways to make holes" not for how to better manufacture drill bits. The customer needs drill bits only so long as bits are the best way to make holes. The moment a laser device arrives which makes a hole better, cleaner, safer, and cheaper, drills bits will go the way of the horse and carriage. It is focusing on the ends not the means.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The market is for holes" applies to churches too, (which often think like 100 year old companies). Face it, there's absolutely no "market" for Sunday school, morning services, Sunday night carry-in dinners, Tuesday evening calling programs, or Habitat for Humanity. The market is for the holes: discipleship, worship, fellowship, evangelism, service. As soon as a new program makes a better "hole" than Sunday school we should unleash it to accomplish discipleship. When someone invents a better way to have collective worship we can dump the Sunday morning service. Same with fellowship, evangelism and service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what is instructive about this model is how it causes us to ask of everything we do, "What is the hole?" And, "Is there a better way to make it?" "Bit market" calls us to examine everything we do to state its purpose, and ask if there is a better way to do it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what about "pastoral calling?" Church offices? Church bulletins? Midweek mailers? Sunday night service? Pulpits? Overhead-screens-in-worship? Pioneer clubs? Praise bands? Youth groups? Youth conventions? Choirs? Camps and retreats? Altar calls? And a hundred other "bits" of the church? &lt;br /&gt;So what do you think? What "bits" are we still trying to sell where there are better ways to make the holes? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Responses to this column are welcome at Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury January 3, 2012&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn.com/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Original 1984 recording: &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/33.mp3"&gt;http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/33.mp3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1171692920575190489?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1171692920575190489/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1171692920575190489' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1171692920575190489'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1171692920575190489'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2012/01/bit-market.html' title='Bit Market'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8617342726249800822</id><published>2011-12-20T17:41:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-20T17:41:36.493-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Duck Hunting</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="Section1"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;Duck Hunting&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;"You don't have to get all the ducks to have a good hunt.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It's obvious to anyone who ever spent a day crouched in a duck blind: You don't have to get all the ducks to have a good hunt. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;A returning hunter focuses on what they bagged, not what they missed. A good duck hunter might miss dozens of ducks and still bag "the limit." Duck hunters who focus too much on those missed won't last long in the sport. With just one shotgun, and scores of ducks flying, you are bound to miss plenty even when you’ve had a great day. Leaders have to be careful of focusing on "missed ducks." &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;No leader gets all the ducks. Neither do golfers, or quarterbacks, or ministers.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Some pastors come home from church every Sunday and start that depressing game of tallying who was missing with their spouse. They are focusing on "missed ducks." Brooding about people who didn’t show up, who missed the announcement, didn’t pledge to the capital campaign, or didn't vote for renewing your pastoral call are missed ducks. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Leaders focus on the ducks they bag, not those missed. Jesus was such a leader. He missed the rich young ruler. He missed most of the people in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Nazareth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;. Even after being with him three years he missed keeping Judas. In fact Jesus once saw more than 5,000 people abandon him in one service—missed ducks. But Jesus focused on those he kept. And He built a church which was unconquerable by the gates of Hell with the ducks He bagged. He even told a story to correct the perspective of people too concerned about the ducks they were missing—it was about a &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;sower&lt;/span&gt; and seeds and different kinds of soil. &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;Different story, same truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Responses to this column are welcome at &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;Keith Drury &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="20" month="12" year="2011"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;December 20, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://delta.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.TuesdayColumn.com" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Original 1984 recording:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/35.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/35.mp3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8617342726249800822?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8617342726249800822/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8617342726249800822' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8617342726249800822'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8617342726249800822'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/12/duck-hunting.html' title='Duck Hunting'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7951103893760519843</id><published>2011-12-13T08:42:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-13T08:42:05.043-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Committee Color</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="Section1"&gt;&lt;h2 align="center" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Committee Color &lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Committees usually pick beige &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Generally any wall color decided by a committee will be beige or some other off-white color. Committees are like that. They seldom pick orange. They're too reasonable. They're safe. They often search for the lowest common denominator, the decision which alienates the least number of people. Want something passionate edgy or creative? Ask one person to do it. Want something safe and non-irritating -- name a committee. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Committees provide a governor of sort on the fast-driving edgy people, including speeding pastors. &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Committess&lt;/span&gt; can &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;boulster&lt;/span&gt; weak leaders sometimes, but they’re better at throttling strong leaders.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="GramE"&gt;Committees&lt;/span&gt; moderate extreme ideas, calm down passion, slow down the decision-making process. They protect against excesses. Their decisions are usually the least-&lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;criticizable&lt;/span&gt; and most traditional middle ground. But they also provide ownership (at least for those on the committee), participatory democracy, and a group to blame for bad decisions. But most of all, they are safe. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want safety, name a committee. But if you want something orange, assign it to an individual. So what are some other reasons for naming committees vs. &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;individuals.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Responses to this column are welcome at &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;Keith Drury &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="13" month="12" year="2011"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;December 13, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://delta.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.TuesdayColumn.com" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Original 1984 recording:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/72.mp3"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #941729;"&gt;http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/72.mp3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7951103893760519843?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7951103893760519843/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7951103893760519843' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7951103893760519843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7951103893760519843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/12/committee-color.html' title='Committee Color'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-740348112069808931</id><published>2011-12-06T08:02:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-06T08:03:32.541-05:00</updated><title type='text'>#3 Pencil Principle</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;#3 Pencil Principle &lt;br /&gt;“Make something hard enough for people and they usually won't do it” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A great story is told in industry circles about the 1950's controller bent on saving money for his accounting firm. This was back before computers when accountants “kept books” with pencils. The penny pinching controller commanded all pencils purchased by the firm must be #3 pencils, forbidding the purchase of the softer #2 pencils. He carefully calculated that the harder lead in the #3 pencils would last almost three times as long. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The result? Instead of the #3 pencils lasting three times as long, they lasted twenty times as long. Pencil purchases almost dropped to zero. What had happened?&amp;nbsp; Sensible accountants refused to use the hard #3 pencils (virtually impossible to erase). They simply brought from home their own soft and easily erasable #2 pencils. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point? Make something hard enough for people and they usually won't do it. Policies and practices which account for this human trait are smarter than those which ignore it. Want people to sign up for bringing VBS cookies? Then don't say, "If you'd be willing to bring cookies for VBS see Vivian Jones after the service this morning." That's a pure #3 pencil statement—making it hard for people to do something.&amp;nbsp; If I'm willing to bring cookies I have to (a) know which woman is Vivian ; (b) remember to see her after church; (c) find Vivian; (d) offer to bake cookies; (e)and arrange to deliver them wherever. Why make it so hard for me to make cookies for VBS? Don't you want me to make cookies? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the #3 Pencil Principle works both ways.&amp;nbsp; It also reminds us how to discourage people from doing something without issuing an outright ban. (Parents of teens—alert.)&amp;nbsp; Policies seldom have to forbid a thing outright—just make it difficult and most people won't do it. This, after all is what rebates are all about, right? You can ten dollars back, but will you?&amp;nbsp; Most don't. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The #3 pencil principle: Most people won’t do things if you make it hard for them, so make it hard for them to do what you really don’t want them to do… and visa versa -- make it easy for people to do what you want them to do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Responses to this column are welcome at Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury December 6, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn.com/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Original 1984 recording: &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/36.mp3"&gt;http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/strategetics/leadership/36.mp3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-740348112069808931?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/740348112069808931/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=740348112069808931' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/740348112069808931'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/740348112069808931'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/12/3-pencil-principle.html' title='#3 Pencil Principle'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8715364708463405889</id><published>2011-11-29T08:17:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-29T08:19:43.397-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I Follow Politics like Some Follow Sports</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jnWKKFcA8iw/TtTbz1nxfyI/AAAAAAAAAV4/_lpoAO8KdX4/s1600/i+like+ike+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="179" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jnWKKFcA8iw/TtTbz1nxfyI/AAAAAAAAAV4/_lpoAO8KdX4/s320/i+like+ike+4.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;I follow political campaigns like other men follow football. I guess is my “couch sport”—a rough physical sport I watch from the safety of my own couch. I’ve watched two football games so far this season. I’ve seen 10 of 11 Republican debates. This all started early. My first political campaign was in 1952-1953, as seven-year old boy I went door to door to make sure Dwight Eisenhower was not beaten by the godless Unitarian, Adlai Stevenson. I caught enough from church folk to understand that the fate of the country was hanging in the balance. I must have been effective—Ike won in a landslide.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was so excited by this that I taped the front page of the newspaper on my coat and went to school expecting everyone else to celebrate. In the school yard I met my first Democrat who not-very-tenderly tore the celebratory newspaper off my coat. After that I was quieter in promoting candidates, but continued throughout childhood to listen to and watch political news like my dad watched baseball. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;I went to college in the 60’s when most students were against the Viet Nam war. Not in my college. One Christmas we were intent on attracting the attention of the national news media with our Christmas manger scene. While other young people were burning their draft cards and shouting “Hell no, we won’t go” we intended to show an alternative political view from our college. We conceived (with a bit of help from the administration) an outdoor manger scene in a triptych layout. In the center was the traditional manger scene complete with a sheep and Mary and Joseph. On the left we raised a large cross representing Christ’s death. Then on the right we hauled in a panel truck and turned it into an Army ambulance complete with mud and blood. In front of the left and right scenes we painted in large letters, “&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;As He died to make men holy…. Let us die to make men free&lt;/i&gt;.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The point was simple: As Jesus died on the cross we young folk should give our lives for freedom in Viet Nam.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Our Christmas political statement never made national news, but we made a statement to our neighborhood in Allentown, PA.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So I have consistently been interested in political races, like others are interested in horse races or football. I know, I know, most folk think this is a waste of time and I agree that it is pure entertainment. While other men (and some women too) remember great football plays from the past, I remember great lines in political debates. I get a grin on my face when I remember Lloyd Bentsen’s 100 yard dash into the end zone with 3 second left on the clock with his:&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt; “I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.” &lt;/i&gt;Or, one of the best scrambling touchdown passes ever was during the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;New Hampshire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; primary debate when Reagan tossed out, "&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green.”&lt;/i&gt; Reagan also did one of the very best prepared plays too. When the 73 year-old Reagan ran for reelection against Walter Mondale he was asked about his age and retorted, “&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent’s youth and inexperience&lt;/i&gt;.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;I have just as much fun remembering great fumbles that &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;were&lt;/span&gt; game-changers, though always with a bit of sympathy for the players. In 1976 Jerry Ford produced one of the greatest turnovers in history with, “&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;There is no Soviet domination of &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Eastern Europe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; and there never will be under a Ford administration&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;.” (This was long before the Berlin Wall came down.)&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In 2000 most everyone expected Al Gore to beat George Bush. But Gore acted like a smarty &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;pants letting out audible and exaggerated {&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;sighs} {sighs}&lt;/i&gt; as if he was&lt;/span&gt; too smart to have put up with a C student like Bush.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;All C students and everyone who had a smarty-pants in their own family or at their job switched their vote and Bush won. &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;Big fumble.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This year’s debates have offered a few good plays and fumbles too. Romney hit Jon Huntsman with, “&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;You have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking. And I suggest that if you want to become president of the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;United States&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;, you have got to let both people speak. So first, let me speak&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When Huntsman was asked about Cain’s &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="9" month="9" year="2009"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;9-9-9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; he said, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;"I thought it was the price of a pizza when I first heard it."&lt;/i&gt; Rick Perry tossed a zinger into Romney’s backfield with, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;"I think Americans just don't know sometimes which Mitt Romney they're dealing with. ... We'll wait until tomorrow and see which Mitt Romney we're talking to tonight."&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This year’s debates have offered great fumbles too. A memorable uncompleted pass by Rick Perry: &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;“The third one, I can’t, I’m sorry, oops.”&lt;/i&gt; Or quarterback Herman Cain got sacked when he called Wolf Blitzer “&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Blitz&lt;/i&gt;.” Even Mitt Romney (who usually plays a boring/safe game) fumbled with, "&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;I'm Mitt Romney, and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name."&lt;/i&gt; (Oops, Mitt’s first name is actually Willard.) &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So when ordinary guys are talking about the playoffs and Super Bowl, I am mostly thinking of a longer season… the political season that started last summer and extends until November 2012.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But, like most sports fans, I really don’t take it too seriously. Indeed, I think that’s one thing sports and politics have in common: who wins and loses makes a little difference… but not much.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;The discussion of this column is on &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;Keith Drury November 29, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://delta.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.TuesdayColumn.com" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8715364708463405889?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8715364708463405889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8715364708463405889' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8715364708463405889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8715364708463405889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/11/i-follow-politics-like-some-follow.html' title='I Follow Politics like Some Follow Sports'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jnWKKFcA8iw/TtTbz1nxfyI/AAAAAAAAAV4/_lpoAO8KdX4/s72-c/i+like+ike+4.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1815777394994602019</id><published>2011-11-22T08:33:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-22T08:33:47.628-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Why Wesleyans Should Merge with the Nazarenes</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="Section1"&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Last Spring I wrote a column on &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/nazarene_wesleyan_merger.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;why Nazarenes should merge with Wesleyans&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which made &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;GSs&lt;/span&gt; in both denominations jumpy. Now the companion piece: Why Wesleyans ought to merge with the Nazarenes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;1. Bigger is better&lt;/b&gt;. Nazarenes have about 3-4 times as many people attending church in &lt;st1:place&gt;North America&lt;/st1:place&gt; as Wesleyans, and even more than that overseas. We boomers all believe bigger is better, so joining the Nazarenes would make both denominations bigger… and thus better. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Leadership&lt;/b&gt;. Wesleyan sometimes &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;complain&lt;/span&gt; that their &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;DSs&lt;/span&gt; lacks “vision” or “leadership” and serve too much like a office manager or bookkeeper. Nazarenes have their very best leaders in the DS and GS spots and they give them the power to lead. We boomers who want a strong DS would be thrilled with the Nazarene &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;DSs&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;3. Higher Education.&lt;/b&gt; It is simple: Nazarenes have the single best denominational educational system in the world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;4. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Kansas City&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;.&lt;/b&gt; Isn’t it obvious that &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Kansas City&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; is a superior location for a North American denomination’s headquarters than &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span class="GramE"&gt;Indianapolis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span class="GramE"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;5. Camp Meetings. &lt;/b&gt;If you like camp meetings, then you would want to merge with Nazarenes before summer—they have the best denominational camp meetings in &lt;st1:place&gt;North America&lt;/st1:place&gt; today.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;6. Missions.&lt;/b&gt; Nazarenes have incredibly strong mission fields, excellent overseas colleges, and the two denominations’ missions fields blend nicely without too much overlap. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;7. Nazarene Publishing House.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;While all publishing houses are suffering, and many denominational publishing houses are collapsing, the NPH is still afloat and even publishes curriculum!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;8. Holiness.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;None of the former holiness denominations have done well at keeping the idea of entire sanctification alive, but the Nazarenes have done more to keep the idea alive than any other denomination; if you like holiness you &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;gotta&lt;/span&gt;’ like Nazarenes. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;9.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Restitution for Rees.&lt;/b&gt; At the time it seemed like the Nazarenes were heavy-handed and out of bounds in excommunicating Pilgrim Seth Cook Rees from their denomination, but I have no doubt that virtually all Wesleyans today would side with the School and the DS.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;10. Self esteem.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Wesleyans are a humble lot and not very good at thinking they’re good, but I’ve never met a Nazarene without an abundance of denominational self confidence. A dose of that denominational self-esteem would do Wesleyans good.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;-------------&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Of course such a merger is not imminent. Mergers take time. It took about 40 years of talking and dating before Wesleyan Methodists and the Pilgrim Holiness finally merged. It could take longer for a Nazarene-Wesleyan merger. But who knows when…?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, this week I’ll be thinking of the reasons to merge with Nazarenes…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;The discussion of this column is on &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;Keith Drury &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="22" month="11" year="2011"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;November 22, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 14.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://delta.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.TuesdayColumn.com" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1815777394994602019?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1815777394994602019/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1815777394994602019' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1815777394994602019'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1815777394994602019'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-wesleyans-should-merge-with.html' title='Why Wesleyans Should Merge with the Nazarenes'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4840998923373593510</id><published>2011-11-14T18:28:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-14T18:30:01.371-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What would you name your denomination?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="Section1"&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 16pt;"&gt;What would you name your Denomination?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Organizations and denominations have recently been in the mood for changing their name.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;A bunch of &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;colleges&lt;/b&gt; have renamed themselves “university” though they still function mostly as colleges. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Southern Baptists&lt;/b&gt; are debating dropping the word “Southern” since so many of their churches aren’t in the south. (I wonder if they’ll keep “Baptist.”)&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;International Bible society&lt;/b&gt; traded that name for “&lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Biblica&lt;/span&gt;.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Is that clearer? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Of course the &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Oriental Missionary Society&lt;/b&gt; can’t say “Oriental” any more so they are now “One Mission Society.” &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;YMCA&lt;/b&gt; has moved beyond being just for Young Men and maybe also drifted away from being Christian and an Association, so they are now just the Y. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The most recent name change is by &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Campus Crusade for Christ&lt;/b&gt;. Their ministry is no longer just on Campuses, the word Crusade is repugnant to Islam, and “for Christ” is a bit too hard-sell for many &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;who&lt;/span&gt; now prefer a softer approach—so their new name is simply “Cru.” Most denominations and organizations go through a series of name changes through their lifetimes. This latest spate comes mostly from “Branding studies” where you hire expensive consultants to help you “re-brand” your product.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="GramE"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;So, what would you rename your denomination if you had that power?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; Why do denominations (or local churches) need to sometimes change their names? And, while we’re at it&lt;span class="GramE"&gt;…&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;what&lt;/span&gt; would you rename your local church if you could name it anything?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;That’s what I’ll be thinking about this week.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The discussion of this column is on &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="15" month="11" year="2011"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;November 15, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="tab-stops: 251.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4840998923373593510?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4840998923373593510/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4840998923373593510' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4840998923373593510'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4840998923373593510'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/11/what-would-you-name-your-denomination.html' title='What would you name your denomination?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-885050199630366997</id><published>2011-11-08T07:14:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-08T07:14:57.832-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How to save on college costs</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;Seven Tips that could save you $50,000 or more&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last week we failed to meet Rick Perry’s challenge to design a $10,000 college degree, so this week, my back-up plan is to give some insider secrets on saving costs on college. These are the tips college professors sometimes tell their friends and parents.&amp;nbsp; I’ve given these tips often in the last 16 years of teaching. (Just for the record, the sticker price for an average Bachelor’s degree at a Christian college is about $120,000—about $30,000 a year, though the vast majority of students pay far less than this sticker price.) Here’s what we insiders often tell our friends and parents about saving $50,000 or more on college costs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Get a college job yourself.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The biggest way to save on college costs is when dad or mom (or husband/wife) gets a job at the college. Most colleges offer steep discounts (some totally free tuition—an $80,000 discount!) to faculty and other employees as part of the salary package. Colleges figure they can get better qualified people and pay them less by offering this benefit.&amp;nbsp; But don’t take it for granted. Check several years before your child is a senior (with the college’s HR office) to see what the policy is. Some colleges limit this benefit to certain positions and others phase it in over several years. However, if you can land a job fulfilling your calling and training, and you’re willing to move, this is the greatest way to save money on your children’s college costs. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Teach your student to get A’s.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next best way is grades.&amp;nbsp; The college aid system is rigged. But it isn’t rigged like most people think (in favor of the poor). It is rigged in favor of the smart. Starting in elementary school, spend an hour a day helping your kids earn A’s in school. Get them into the habit of expecting A’s and working for them. Then by high school when you can’t do as much, they’ll be in the habit. When such a student takes the SAT or ACT they will likely excel too. (If they don’t, help them retake the test.)&amp;nbsp; Colleges give out millions of dollars in aid and lots if it goes to smart students. (The college where I teach doles out nine million dollars every year!)&amp;nbsp; A lot of that money goes to smart students—called an “academic scholarship” which is usually based on high school grades and/or SAT/ACT score. For instance, at my college a student with a 3.9 GPA in high school and a SAT/ACT score of 1280/20 can get up to $8000 a year—a $32,000 discount off the sticker price and that’s just the academic scholarship; there are others too. But even if your kid isn’t a 3.9 there are lesser scholarships for less stellar grades and scores.&amp;nbsp; The extra hour a day you invest with your child starting in fourth grade might be the most highly paid hour of your family income! High grades equals good scholarships.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Bank college credit while still in high school.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides high school “advanced placement” courses, most colleges also offer credits-in-escrow programs. This means a student still in high school can take a college course in the summer, or online and the credits for that course are waiting for them when they enter college.&amp;nbsp; Teens might whine about giving up their time for this, but when parents do the raw math they simply insist.&amp;nbsp; A course like this might cost a couple hundred dollars, an 80% or more discount compared to a full blown college course. Sometimes these courses cost nothing at all—saving thousands per course. This tip alone can save your family $5,000-$10,000 or even as much as the cost of an entire semester.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. CLEP courses.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The College-Level Examination Program offered by the College Board folk is a way to earn college credit by simply taking a test, usually for a “general education” requirement. If your student already knows a subject why should they have to take another course on it? (I could answer that, but this column is about money, not learning.) The CLEP test costs about $100 and a score of usually 51% will earn your student three hours college credit. It might cost another $100 to transfer the credit to the college’s books, but for maybe $200 the student get three hours credit, 80% or more discount on the regular cost. If your student earned an A in high school algebra they probably can get 51% on the college algebra test. I know clever students who CLEPed 30 hours of credit—all their electives and some Gen Ed and saved $30,000 (one full year of college) by simply taking tests.&amp;nbsp; Ironically the smarter students CLEP more (see #1 above) so “the rich get richer” when it comes to smart students. (Average students, lazy students and poor students always pay the most for college.) There is one hitch however. While you can CLEP for electives, only certain CLEP tests count for certain required General Education courses. Get the sheet from your college while your student is still in high school so you know which CLEP test counts for which required college course. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Take summer classes.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Starting the summer after high school begin taking courses and do it in the college summers too. You can take summer courses at your own college, at a nearby junior college or online. This is a giant money-saver but you have to work to make it happen. If a student pays attention and takes classes in the summer they can save thousands more. Even online courses from their own college can be half price in the summers.&amp;nbsp; It is like clipping coupons—a little work can save a bundle. However, do the work. Find out from your college’s records office or Registrar what courses would count as a course required at that college. All courses are not equivalent. Most any course from an accredited school might count as an elective, but your college might not accept a community college’s “British history” course to meet their own requirement for “American history.”&amp;nbsp; Check first. Of course summer school trades-off the enriching experience of a summer internship or hitchhiking through Europe, but this column is not about enriching experiences; it is about saving money. Of course if you can afford the full price of college hitchhike through Europe next summer for sure!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. Apply for other scholarships.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cruise ship ethos at most college campuses works against doing most of the above. Taking a CLEP test means studying for several hours, signing up for the test, and setting apart the time to leave the coffee shop to take the test. Most students say they are just too busy to do this. So they float down the river of nonchalance and casually sign up for more debt each year. If you want to do your student a big favor, get more involved in their decisions on these things and hold them accountable for doing it. For example, every year the School of Theology at the college where I teach awards several hundred thousand dollars worth of scholarships.&amp;nbsp; Many of these scholarships are for specific kinds of students like “a student majoring in pastoral ministry who is from north Michigan” or a “woman headed to seminary after graduation.” There is no way we could remember all these details for 400 students so we ask them. We send an email asking them to take 10 minutes to fill out a simple survey giving details about themselves so we can match up the hundreds of thousands of dollars to the deserving students. Guess what.&amp;nbsp; More than a hundred of our students never fill out the forms and get nothing. There are all kinds of other scholarships that take a bit of work to get, especially for students preparing for ministry or missionary work. For instance my school has stunningly generous scholarships for Wesleyan Juniors and Seniors headed for ordination—yet some students never get around to signing up with their district as a ministerial student and miss out on these scholarships. Parents who care about the debt load for their children can’t let thousands of dollars get lost just because their son or daughter feels they are too busy. In general, students need a coach to prod them through this process, and a parent is a good coach. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7. Be nimble for the coming changes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of the above advice is current—it can save you $50,000 or more right now on a college degree. But it will get better in the future—if you keep your eyes open. Education is facing major changes in the future that will benefit families financially. For instance, the federal government went to bat last week for parents by forcing all colleges (by 10/29/2011) to provide a “net price calculator” on their web sites. Most schools have complied, though it may take 23 clicks to get there. And to boot, the government now posts costs, aid and averages for each college at &lt;a href="http://nces.ed.gov/COLLEGENAVIGATOR/"&gt;http://nces.ed.gov/COLLEGENAVIGATOR/&lt;/a&gt; . Just type in the name of the college and you can find all kinds of information on colleges including what they give in scholarships and the average scholarships and loans per student.&amp;nbsp; But even bigger changes are in the wind. If you are nimble and stay aware your student could save thousands more.&amp;nbsp; For instance, in the not-too-distant future many colleges will offer their first two years of “General Education” online—often at a tuition discount of half or more. In the future your son or daughter might move to the actual college campus with two years of “Gen Ed” already under their belt. They’ll have only two more years to go—their upper level or “major” courses. This is a loss of the campus environment that is so important for Christian colleges especially, so it will mean that local churches will have to step with more for 18-20 year olds. But there’s an even bigger change coming than this: an expected Master’s degree.&amp;nbsp; College is the new high school—the minimum requirement to get a basic job.&amp;nbsp; A Master’s degree is the new college—the minimum expectation for entering a profession. You may refuse to believe this if you want, but you’ll do so at your own risk, (or more properly your children’s risk.)&amp;nbsp; But here’s the good news: Using the above advice many students will have a Bachelor’s and a Master’s degree in just four years. Better yet, in some institutions a Master’s tuition is only half the undergrad tuition (again, no amenities). Once the “online gen ed revolution” happens, your student will move to college as a Junior, stay there only three years and they’ll walk away with a Master’s degree that costs them about half as much as a four-year-on-campus Bachelor’s degree costs now.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your excellent feedback last week triggered these thoughts. So, this is what I’m thinking about this week. Got anything to add? Parents of middle schoolers are freaking out about college costs. But it isn’t as bad as they imagine. It just takes some coupon-clipping kind of work to save $50,000 or more on the cost of college.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what I’ll be thinking about this week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on &lt;br /&gt;Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury November 8, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-885050199630366997?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/885050199630366997/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=885050199630366997' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/885050199630366997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/885050199630366997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-save-on-college-costs.html' title='How to save on college costs'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3614147231131236252</id><published>2011-11-01T08:08:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T08:22:11.090-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Wanna’ start a $10,000 College Degree?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="Section1"&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Want to go in with me and start a college? We’ve been asked to do this, you know.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Presidential candidate Rick Perry issued a challenge to educators to make a Bachelor’s degree that costs $10,000 (books included). He sees no reason why college costs can’t be lowered to $2500 per year. Want to take him on his challenge? You can be the President—I’ll be your assistant.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’ve spent the last 16 years in higher education so let me rough out some numbers on our new college degree for $10,000. (If we succeed maybe Perry will put us in charge of fixing the whole &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;US&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; budget problem when he gets elected President!) &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So, here’s my first figuring on how we could produce Rick Perry’s $10,000 college degree:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;1. ELIMINATE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-transform: uppercase;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;room&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; text-transform: uppercase;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; text-transform: uppercase;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; text-transform: uppercase;"&gt; board. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Our first is to cut out living on campus which eliminates all room and board. Anyone who has teenagers knows you can’t buy a student’s food, hire someone to cook it, someone else to wash their dishes and clean up their tables after them, and at the same time pay for a building to do it in for nine months -- for only $2500 per student. And if we could, we can’t spend the whole amount on food, let alone room, and heating and air conditioning. In our college students will have to stay home where mom and dad can cover these costs. We can sell our campus—though if this idea catches on there won’t be much market for actual &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;campus’&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2. CANCEL CAMPUS &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;LIFE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;. Since nobody will be living on campus there is little need for other expensive things like athletics, library, or activities directors, or resident mentors, or chaplains, or counselors, or student advisors, or a health center, or the cleaning lady who takes out trash and picks up after them in the lounges. Their parents can do these things at home.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;3. CUT &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;ALL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;FULL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;-TIME PROFESSORS. We won’t be able to have any full time professors either for a $10,000 degree. We’ll use “adjuncts” to supervise the online curriculum-in-a-box that will all be pre-written. If students have questions about life, or physics or faith they can ask their parents or pastor or friends. For a $10,000 degree we’ll have to focus on just the degree, not things like mentoring or chapel.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;4. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;FIRE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:stockticker style="background-image: url(&amp;quot;res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001&amp;quot;); background-position: left bottom; background-repeat: repeat-x;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;ALL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:stockticker&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;span style="text-transform: uppercase;"&gt;administrators.&lt;/span&gt; With nobody living on campus, and no full-time professors, and no actual physical campus, what would we need administrators for? The only &lt;span class="GramE"&gt;administrators&lt;/span&gt; we’ll need is you (the President) and me (your assistant). &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;All we need to administer is the writing of the curriculum-in-a-box—you and I can put the curriculum online ourselves. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;------------------------- &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Why am I eliminating so many things?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because we only have $2500 a year and we’ve got to pay the part-time adjunct teachers. Here is my first figuring: Let’s say our proverbial adjunct spends 15 minutes per student per week reading, responding and grading the student’s work. That totals for the entire year (five courses X 15 weeks X two semesters) a total of about 750 adjunct hours a year per student. Whoops, this isn’t working. Since the student only pays $2500 a year, if we used the whole $2500 for adjunct pay the adjunct would only get $6.66 per hour, less than minimum pay.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And there’d be nothing left to develop the curriculum or pay for the servers, or pay you as the President.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Well, I’m not up to Rick Perry’s challenge. Maybe Rick has a secret plan? Or maybe I’m missing something. You got a better idea? Can &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;you&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;design a $10,000 Bachelor’s degree? If so, &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; should be President… not of our college, but of the country!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;That’s what I’ve been thinking about this week.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-family: Arial;"&gt;So, what do &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; think?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;The discussion of this column is on &lt;span class="SpellE"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;: &lt;a href="https://legacy.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.facebook.com/home.php?%23!/profile.php?id=161502633" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Keith Drury &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:date day="25" month="10" year="2011"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;October 25, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://legacy.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=https://delta.indwes.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.TuesdayColumn.com" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 261.75pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3614147231131236252?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3614147231131236252/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3614147231131236252' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3614147231131236252'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3614147231131236252'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/11/wanna-start-10000-college-degree.html' title='Wanna’ start a $10,000 College Degree?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3592055555990027594</id><published>2011-10-25T09:20:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-25T09:20:16.883-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What do we do with an “unneeded generation?”</title><content type='html'>Our economy faces a growing problem with the younger generation – we simply don’t need them. Even jobs for graduating seniors from college are drying up, let alone jobs those who didn’t go to college.&amp;nbsp; I think this is not a temporary situation that can be solved by a President or congress—I think it is “the new normal” for most of the next decade.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for manufacturing jobs—they’re never coming back.&amp;nbsp; Its not just china’s low wages. American manufacturing has simply become so efficient it doesn’t need workers, as any program of the science channel’s “How its made” illustrates. These companies are not going to fire their robots an replace them with young employees who need health care.&amp;nbsp; The mortgage and banking crisis gave companies an excuse to lay off excess workers they really didn’t need anyway. And they slowed down new hiring, as they became more efficient even in&amp;nbsp; non-manufacturing work too—when is the last time you used a bank teller, or dictated a letter for a “secretary” to type?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has happened in the church too. Jobs are out there but they are fewer and the competition is more fierce. Many churches have followed the lead of business. They have become more efficient. They have eliminated some jobs altogether, recruiting lay volunteers to do what they used to hire a staff minister to do. Others have hired their own laity as part or full time staffers–often laity who sensed a call when they became unemployed themselves. Other churches have chosen not to replace staffers who left the church determining “we didn’t really need that ministry anyway, after all we don’t get much back from it” (this is especially true for young adult ministers). It isn’t because the church can’t afford it—church giving is not down in most cases—it is because of the general climate of belt-tightening and economic fear. Churches don’t want to hire somebody then turn around and have to lay them off six months later. The result has been we now have a whole “unneeded generation.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This tightening job market for ministerial students has beer exacerbated by boomers reaching retirement age who feel they can’t retire. Some boomers simply didn’t save enough for retirement. But even those who did are fearful that their economic future is tentative due to talk about potential cuts in Social Security and Medicare. They did their pencil work and could retire now, but who knows what they’ll lose in the future when “everything comes tumbling down.” So many healthy boomers are quietly deciding to stay on “until they’re 70 or more” when they hope things will stabilize. Usually the retiring generation makes space for the middle aged ministers who move up into the vacated jobs which then makes space for the younger generation. This process will be clogged at the top in the coming decade due to economics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this brings us new challenge in the church, and for people like me who work with this largely unneeded generation.&amp;nbsp; Sure, some graduates still get full time jobs, but the demand of jobs is smaller than the supply of seniors.&amp;nbsp; I wrote last spring about the resulting “sale on Seniors”&amp;nbsp; and how “the unneeded generation” is coping with this. They are biding their time figuring the “clog at the top” will eventually unclog in a decade or so. What’s a graduating senior ministerial student&amp;nbsp; supposed to do when they are mostly unneeded? What would YOU tell these seniors this coming spring? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s what I say:&amp;nbsp; Take an internship or go to seminary so you’re better prepared to compete when the jobs do come back in a decade. Work part time in a church and the rest of the time at Starbucks and pay off your debt in eight years so you’ll be debt-free and 30 years old when you land your first full time ministry job. Go overseas for a few years on the cheap and get some global ministry experience. Plant a church on your own—don’t expect any financial help but figure out how to start a church small and cheap and reinvent the small church again. And as a last resort, I even sometimes recommend moving back in with mom and dad. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&amp;nbsp; What are the unintended consequences of having an unneeded generation? What might actually be good about this situation?&amp;nbsp; Bad? How does it feel to be an unneeded? If we in the church don’t need this generation for jobs, what else do we need them for? Certainly we don’t want to simply tell them they are completely unneeded?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what I’m thinking about this week.&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury October 25, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3592055555990027594?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3592055555990027594/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3592055555990027594' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3592055555990027594'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3592055555990027594'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/10/what-do-we-do-with-unneeded-generation.html' title='What do we do with an “unneeded generation?”'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6648804365516404812</id><published>2011-10-16T21:16:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-16T21:16:56.678-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Changing Missions ( 10/16/2011 Tuesday Column)</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I’m tempted to think the most radical church changes in the last 30 years have been in worship but I think more changes may have happened in missions. Here are the changes I’ve seen in the last 30 years, since 1980.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Collapse of the “just-send-us-your-money-and-trust-us” mission boards. &lt;br /&gt;Before the 1980s most missions boards simply raised money for missions. Churches gave their money and the missions boards spent it sending out the best missionaries they could find. This was virtually the only way denominations raised missions money. Churches had annual missionary conferences and raised “self-denial offerings” and sent bucketfuls of undesignated money to their denominational office to spend the best way possible. When missionaries did “deputation” they told specific stories about their field but the offerings went into the general pot to support all missionaries everywhere. This model has just about collapsed everywhere with a few notable exceptions (Nazarenes?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Growth of missionaries raising their own support.&lt;br /&gt;The trouble with the first model for denominations was that eventually an independent missionary showed up on the church’s doorstep and said, “Please support me—I am not like denominational missionaries who get paid out of a common pot—if I don’t raise my support I can’t go to the field.” Lots (and lots) of churches bought this pitch and began funneling support to these “faith missionaries”–especially if they were related to someone in the church. Denominations and boards with method number 1 were simply forced to switch to individual missionaries raising their own support or they couldn’t compete. Some worried that there would be some really good missionaries who might be poor fund-raisers, or (worse) there’d be some really bad missionaries who could raise lots of money, but most denominational missions agencies in the 1980s or 90s succumbed to this individual support-raising system. Now everyone is out there raising support on the same basis—“help me or I can’t go.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Merger of home missions and foreign missions.&lt;br /&gt;Even if denominations didn’t actually merge these two missions departments, local churches merged them. Churches dropped the “s” from missions and offered a single mission pot. The mission now included everything over the ocean, over the state line, and across the street. A church might still recruit a high powered missionary to give the sermon on faith promise Sunday but when the money came in, it went to the local Christian radio station, the town’s crisis pregnancy center, the city mission, Habitat for Humanity, church planting in the district, supporting local students at college, along with supporting foreign missionaries. To get a local church’s support missionaries had to “apply” for it through a committee like they were applying for a grant. Missionaries started recruiting money person-by-person at this stage, and eventually facebook and email began replacing church-to-church visits. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Preference for short term.&lt;br /&gt;In the earlier stages above, almost all missionary money was channeled into long term projects—like paying actual missionary support to a person who would move to country for a few decades and learn the language. Increasingly many churches considered these missionaries “overhead” or merely “denominational bureaucrats” and sought instead whiz-bang short term projects that produced more excitement. It seemed like you’d get a quicker return on the dollar of you supported your brother in law to spend two weeks building a school in Zambia than just tossing your money in the sack toward a missionary’s salary or pension. You got to see your brother in law come home transformed and contribute something to your church. It seemed sexier to buy a thousand pairs of shoes than pay the salary of the person who would hand them out. Missionaries could more easily get people to buy shoes, or fill shoeboxes, or drill wells than they could to raise their own support to be an actual missionary. Missions was moving from people to projects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Evangelism to social ministry.&lt;br /&gt;As evangelicals lost their nerve to do evangelism at home they increasingly had less motivation send evangelistic missionaries abroad. Evangelicals had wearied of “The Four Spiritual Laws” and talking about “the lost” who are “headed to hell “ or having heroes who were “soul-winners.” In their weariness along came all kinds of social ministries that were worthy—drilling wells for life-giving water, rescuing AIDS orphans, establishing schools and colleges, or fighting sex trafficking...and a score of other worthwhile things. Evangelicals still expected people to get saved, but evangelism was not the primary focus. It became a collateral benefit. Professional missionaries plugging away at evangelism found less zeal for their work on returning to the USA, and saw greater interest in shorter term social projects with “no overhead” for the missionary’s salary or for the centralized missions office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Local church becomes its own missions board.&lt;br /&gt;The latest change is the local church itself (especially large churches) becoming their own missions board—doing missions direct and “cutting out the middle man” that avoided boards “taking their cut.” Combined with all of the above, this final change yields a totally new approach to missions since 1980: Raising money locally to support local and global (“Glocal”) projects that are mostly short term involving our own people involved especially in social ministries. Smaller churches can band together as a district and do the same—even launching and supervising their own mission fields sometimes in “partnership” with the former centralized missions boards. &lt;br /&gt;-------------------- &lt;br /&gt;This week I’ll be thinking about these changes. Which of these changes have been good? Bad? What other changes have I missed? Are there “unintended consequences” of some of these changes? Where does all this lead? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what I’m thinking about this week.&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury October 18, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6648804365516404812?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6648804365516404812/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6648804365516404812' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6648804365516404812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6648804365516404812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/10/changing-missions-10162011-tuesday.html' title='Changing Missions ( 10/16/2011 Tuesday Column)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6475996563836731851</id><published>2011-10-10T20:59:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-10T20:59:22.372-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Mormons and Evangelicals</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I bet if Mitt Romney is the Republican candidate for President most evangelicals will swallow the lump in their throat and vote for him. It doesn’t surprise me that evangelicals would vote for a Mormon any more than that they’d vote for a divorced man (Reagan) or a Catholic (Santorum) or an adulterer (Gingrich). Christians have always been able to vote for non-Christians (or bad Christians) for political office. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed it is only a recent phenomenon to even have a “real” evangelical running for President. Until recently evangelicals had to choose the best from among the non-evangelicals. I remember when Jimmy Carter testified that he was a “Born Again Christian” the media scurried around to figure out what that meant. The next night, a New York newscaster reporting something like, “We have researched this term and we have found that it is not an uncommon experience for people in the south to have an emotional encounter with God that changes their life.” Really? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe Romney won’t get the nomination, but if he does I’m thinking this week about what that might mean for the Mormons and evangelicals There are maybe 12 million Mormons in the world with about 6 million living in the USA. This is a big “denomination” (or cult or religion, whatever you wish to call it). The Methodists are only about a million larger. And Mormons are growing fast, Methodists are declining. Mitt Romney is a “good Mormon” too. He hasn’t taken the country-before-religion pledge like John Kennedy did when people questioned if he would obey the Pope over the people. Romney is a faithful Mormon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what is there to fear in that?&amp;nbsp; That he will banish alcohol from the While House like Carter did? Banish coffee, Coke and Pepsi and all other caffeine drinks too?&amp;nbsp; Would he tell youth they shouldn’t have sex before marriage and they should dress modestly?&amp;nbsp; Would the Mormons channel millions of dollars to fight for traditional marriage like they did with Jim Garlow’s California Proposition 8? Gee, are these things evangelicals would worry about. I bet most evangelicals will eventually become supporters of Romney if he is the Republican nominee. In fact, I think the more evangelicals find out about Mormonism’s practices the more they’ll like them.&amp;nbsp; The practices, that is. Sure, they won’t like Mormonism’s theology, but face it, most evangelicals have long ago concluded “Theology doesn’t matter” or “we’re all really saying the same thing anyway.”&amp;nbsp; I bet evangelicals will conclude that Mormon’s “have extra beliefs” like they eventually concluded about Roman Catholics’ veneration of Mary or Purgatory. I think evangelicals will swallow their (theological) objections and admire the practices. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here is what I’m thinking about this week:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. When the current furor dies down, will most evangelicals quit using the word “cult” for Mormons? Maybe even in two weeks?&lt;br /&gt;2. What other changes will a Mormon candidate for president trigger for evangelicals?&lt;br /&gt;3. How will the Mormons change if Romney is a candidate? Will they become more mainstream and downplay their fringe doctrines?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what I’m thinking about this week.&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury October 11, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6475996563836731851?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6475996563836731851/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6475996563836731851' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6475996563836731851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6475996563836731851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/10/mormons-and-evangelicals.html' title='Mormons and Evangelicals'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-203029433314662404</id><published>2011-10-04T07:58:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T07:58:57.701-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Large churches/Small churches</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;“Most churches are Small churches”&lt;br /&gt;“Most People attend Large Churches”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which is true?&amp;nbsp; Both.&amp;nbsp; Statistics can give us facts that seem to contradict themselves. Sometimes DSs tell me I need to be preparing graduates to pastor churches under 70 because “almost all churches are small churches.”&amp;nbsp; They are right—the vast majority of churches in America are under 100. But the second statement is also true: Most people attend the larger churches over 100. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is most startling in the statistics are the trends over time. Take my own denomination—The Wesleyan Church. We maintain an ongoing list of the largest 25 Wesleyan Churches at our headquarters.&amp;nbsp; So you can tract the trends in attendance at the top 25 churches. In 1970 one out of twelve Wesleyans attended these largest 25 churches. Ten years later in 1980 one in ten Wesleyans attended the largest 25 churches. By 1990 one in seven Wesleyans attended these 25 local churches. The trend continued so that by 2010 one out of four Wesleyans attended these largest 25 churches. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Wesleyans attending the largest 25 Wesleyan Churches&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1970&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1 of 12 &lt;br /&gt;1980&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1 of 10 &lt;br /&gt;1990&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1 of 7 &lt;br /&gt;2010&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1 of 4 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I’m thinking about this week is the trend here. Will this trend continue or has it peaked?&amp;nbsp; Will there be a day when half of all Wesleyans attend 25 mega churches? Or is the era of the mega church over and people in the future will want smaller churches? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury October 4, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn.com/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-203029433314662404?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/203029433314662404/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=203029433314662404' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/203029433314662404'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/203029433314662404'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/10/large-churchessmall-churches.html' title='Large churches/Small churches'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1511208626526067132</id><published>2011-09-13T11:50:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T11:50:20.713-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Five Pillars of Christianity</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Followers of Islam know exactly what is expected of them—five achievable duties, the so-called “Five Pillars of Islam.”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Christianity has no official list of essential duties, but I’m wondering this week, if we did have five, what would they be?&amp;nbsp; Actually, maybe we do have five pillars—they are just informal and unlisted. I wonder what our five pillars would be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Five Pillars of Islam are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Confession of Faith. (Shahada) Saying with conviction, “There is no god but God and Muhammad is the messenger of God.”&amp;nbsp; It is the way one converts to Islam and is supposed to be a continual confession right up to death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Prayer five times a day. (Salat) Spending a few minutes five times a day praying at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset, and night.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Giving. (Zakat) Giving annually to the poor the equivalent of 2.5% of wealth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Fasting.&amp;nbsp; (Sawm) Abstaining from food, drink and sexual relations from dawn until sundown during the month of Ramadan each year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5) Pilgrimage. (Hajj) Take a pilgrimage once in a lifetime to Mecca. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if evangelicals had five pillars (and we probably do informally) what are those five pillars? Or what do you think they should be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury&amp;nbsp; September 13, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaycolumn.com/"&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1511208626526067132?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1511208626526067132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1511208626526067132' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1511208626526067132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1511208626526067132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/09/five-pillars-of-christianity.html' title='The Five Pillars of Christianity'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6822070462801133252</id><published>2011-05-03T10:20:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-03T10:22:43.777-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Impractical Teachings of Jesus</title><content type='html'>It seems that some of the teachings of Jesus are just impractical for today doesn’t it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take his teaching on divorce—the one where he says whoever marries a divorced woman is committing adultery? It is hard to practically implement that in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, how about his teaching that we are to love God with all our heart, soul and minds—and our neighbor as ourselves—is that practical? Even possible?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or how about the direct command from Jesus to not pile up treasures on earth—how practical would it be to actually live this teaching of Jesus—not add each year to one’s net worth? It seems un-American.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder if the most impractical teaching of Jesus is how we are to treat out enemies. Jesus taught us to love our enemies and pray for them. How could you even be a loyal citizen of America if you loved our enemies? This teaching of Jesus is perhaps the most impractical of all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;discussion of this column is on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury May 3, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6822070462801133252?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6822070462801133252/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6822070462801133252' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6822070462801133252'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6822070462801133252'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/05/impractical-teachings-of-jesus.html' title='Impractical Teachings of Jesus'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7814698899868268980</id><published>2011-04-25T11:19:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-25T11:22:42.668-04:00</updated><title type='text'>SALE! on Seniors</title><content type='html'>One of my jobs as writer of this column is to spot trends and report them, especially trends among the emerging generation now in college. The most recent trend I’ve seen is our college seniors are willing to work for almost nothing if the working conditions are right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This started a few years ago but it has escalated enough to become a significant trend. Many of this year’s graduating seniors are quite happy to take “internships” at a church for a year or so—even for $100 or $200 a week. We actually have high-talented grads turning down $40,000 youth pastor jobs that were offered to them to take $10,000 internships.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is this happening? What has changed? Here is my take on why some graduating seniors will work for less:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Extended development. &lt;/strong&gt;It is no secret that today’s college students are delaying adulthoods into the late 20’s and early 30’s. This period is variously called Extended adolescence, Delayed adulthood or Provisional Adulthood and it is a real thing. It is here to stay and can’t be scolded away by boomers who got their first church at age 22. Most of the emerging generation considers all of their 20’s to be a “Decade Development” and we can no more change that than we could get 12 year olds to “get serious and take a church.” Thus, many graduates expect their 20’s to be a period of fun, growth, and development—in short “8 more years of college life.” Churches offering $40,000 jobs expect work and production out of these kids and they want more freedom like they had in college—churches offering internships are landing great graduates because they recognize college seniors want more time to grow and develop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Fear of failure.&lt;/strong&gt; Most of today’s college graduates have been insulated from failure by “helicopter parents” and “helicopter colleges.” The expectations in the ministry are higher than ever—people just don’t accept fumbling. They realize a “residency” program in a church doesn’t bet their entire ministerial career on their first year’s success or failure. If they take that high-paying job running the youth ministry in a church of 1000, expectations are high and the consequences of failure are astronomical. So many take the internship or residency job where the expectations aren’t as high, and there is a safety net for them to do their wing-walking over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Clarifying their call.&lt;/strong&gt; I don’t like this but it is true. Many of today’s college graduates are still clarifying their call. We boomers knew we were called at age 18 and took our first solo pastorate at 22. Many of today’s graduates are still “exploring my call” and intend to do so until they are about 30. This irritates District Ordination Examination Boards that are packed with boomers but it is a massive change and if we don’t recognize it we’ll be left in the dust with a dry old wineskin designed for boomers. The denomination that does not provide for delaying ordination until 30 or 33 will be left in the dust. You can’t force 22 year olds to get ordained any more than you can force them to get married—they are delaying both. Many of today’s graduates want to work part time in a church internship (and maybe work at Starbucks too for 15 hours) while they clarify their calling. Getting today’s 22 year old to be “certain of their call” would be like trying to get the boomers to have done so at age 14. Today’s kids are not “immature” or “irresponsible” they just are. Boomers weren’t irresponsible because they didn’t walk 5 miles to school in 4’ snowdrifts and start working 40 hours a week at age 12 like their parents said they did. Neither are today’s kids immature because they didn’t have the life of their parents—after all these are the Boomer’s kids! Times change and developmental patterns change. A part time internship allows 4-5 more years for graduates to get certain about their call. And an internship provides the place to clarify a call—not in a college dorm, but in the local church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. ObamaCare.&lt;/strong&gt; Political decisions have religious consequences. Few political decisions will have a greater impact on graduating college students than Obama’s health care plan allowing kids to stay on their parent’s health insurance until age 26. This law ratified age 26 as the first date when a young person needs to begin transition toward adulthood. The effect of this law is huge among young adults. It has functionally doubled the college years—from four to eight. Graduating seniors do not have to worry about the $10,000 health insurance policy that comes with a full time job—they can take a part time internship, risk less, learn more and their parent’s health insurance will pick up the tab letting the local church where they work save the ten grand. This law has removed one major reason for college graduates needed to get a full time job—the insurance. Knowing that your insurance is covered makes it easier for seniors to take a part time job in a church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Low debt.&lt;/strong&gt; The wide perception that college graduates come out with about $40,000 debt per person--$80,000 per married couple is false. It is true that college costs about $100,000 total. But as many as 40% of the graduating ministerial seniors (especially the best students) have no substantial college debt whatsoever. Financial advisors say a college graduate should not have more debt than their first year’s salary. Well, for those students with no debt they don’t have to get paid very much then! This low debt position of many allows them to take a part time internship. And if they have a “ministerial loan-grant” from their denomination, they might be able to pay that down 20% a year by their service as an intern or resident pastor in a local church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are other factors but before this column gets too long let me outline how a church can get in on this sale. From my conversations, the total package doesn’t impress them—here is what they are looking for. Even average churches (maybe especially average churches) can hire top notch seniors for a hundred or two hundred dollars a week:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. A cool workplace environment.&lt;/strong&gt; They want a church staff that works together as a team, who likes each other, drinks coffee together, laughs at things, and has fun together at work and even outside of work—in short they want “dorm life” in a church staff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Time off.&lt;/strong&gt; They are willing to work for less but in exchange they want to be able to take a month off in the summer to hitchhike across Europe or go visit one of their college buddies teaching in Somolia. And, of course many graduating seniors are still not married so they need the freedom to travel and date the people they forgot to marry in college. In short they want time off something more like their college schedule.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Shorter commitment.&lt;/strong&gt; One of the scariest things about full time jobs is that many boomer pastors and boards are insisting on a “five year commitment.” Five years is too long to commit for today’s seniors. We know when boomers make such commitments they don’t take it that seriously and allow “the Lord to change my mind.” These Christians take such commitments very seriously—they think a five year commitment means they can’t even pray about another offer for five years—and it is binding even if they marry someone in Nebraska who won’t move, or they want to go to seminary after all. They take their commitments so seriously that a shorter commitment is very attractive to them—so internships are really attractive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Mentoring.&lt;/strong&gt; Boomer graduates didn’t know how stupid they were—we just planted churches and grew them big on trial and error. These graduates know. They believe they are woefully prepared for pastoral work and they now want to get “the rest of my training.” College does a pretty good job of educating ministers but does a poor job of training them. Ministerial training happens best in a local church and these graduates know that. They know if they take a full time job, boomer senior pastors will pay them well but expect them to “produce or perish.” They don’t think they are ready to “produce” what is expected today—they want more training. So, they’re willing to give up $20,000-$30,000 a year of a normal salary to get it. So you can get one of these quality graduates by offering your time to “finish their training” in a local church setting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve held off on writing this column until some of the churches already tuned in to this change have landed the best grads—but there are still some loose at my school and in other Christian Colleges if you can make up the right “package” for them—and I’m not talking salary package, but a package of the things I just mentioned above. Graduation at IWU, where I teach, is this coming week, so many of the seniors I’m talking about have already taken part-time internships and “Ministry Residencies” at churches. But this column gives you time to figure out if you can get in on this “sale on seniors” next year Hiring a promising college graduate to work with you may not be as hard as you once thought. There’s a sale on now—a sale on seniors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;discussion of this column is on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury April 26, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7814698899868268980?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7814698899868268980/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7814698899868268980' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7814698899868268980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7814698899868268980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/04/sale-on-seniors.html' title='SALE! on Seniors'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3458374754993503985</id><published>2011-04-19T08:50:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-19T08:52:55.330-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If I were a Nazarene I’d try to Merge with the Wesleyans</title><content type='html'>If I were a Nazarene I’d try to Merge with the Wesleyans&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were a Nazarene I’d try to get my denomination to merge with the Wesleyans. Here’s why:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Low Taxes. &lt;/strong&gt;Wesleyans have low district, educational and denominational taxes—usually about 10% combined—and there’s talk of lowering it even more next summer. If Nazarenes joined the Wesleyans they could keep more of their own money locally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Localism prevails.&lt;/strong&gt; Among Wesleyans the local church really is at the top of the food chain—not the district or denomination. Wesleyan pastors have more power than DSs or GSs; pastors dominate Wesleyan boards and committees and as speakers at all conventions all the way to the top—if I were a Nazarene pastor I’d want to get in on this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Pension is funded.&lt;/strong&gt; Wesleyans don’t tax this generation to pay for the previous generation’s retirement, but actually save all pension money pastors put in to pay that individual pastor’s pension. If I were a Nazarene I’d want to merge to get in on this sound plan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Mega church friendly.&lt;/strong&gt; Wesleyans like churches in the thousands and the denomination pretty much lets these church do whatever they want. Beyond that, Wesleyans have a tax cap—after a certain point churches don’t pay a cent of taxes on the rest of the money they receive. If I were a Nazarene mega church pastor I’d want to get in on this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Conservative Doctrine.&lt;/strong&gt; It’s no secret that Wesleyans are considered a tad bit more doctrinally conservative than Nazarenes—so even if I were the tad bit more liberal Nazarene I’d figure that there was safety in that solid conservatism—comparatively, that is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. Catholic-spirited.&lt;/strong&gt; Wesleyans aren’t very denominational. They are sort of an undenominational movement that seldom even mentions their name—even in local church names. Wesleyans show up in force at Catalyst and other conventions and seldom push to have a “Wesleyan edition” of whatever is the latest craze—they are always cooperating with other denominations. If I were a Nazarene I’d like that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7. Fewer General Superintendents.&lt;/strong&gt; Many Americans wonder why a denomination needs a bunch of GSs when the whole USA only has one President. Wesleyans have only three GSs, but they are probably headed next summer to reduce that to one. If I were a Nazarene I’d want to promote that idea and doing it by merger would be the easiest way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8. JoAnne Lyon.&lt;/strong&gt; If I were a Nazarene I’d be pushing merger with the Wesleyans just to get JoAnne Lyon. I don’t think Nazarenes can get her any other way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;9. World Hope.&lt;/strong&gt; Through the innovative leadership of H C Wilson and JoAnne Lyon Wesleyans founded World Hope—a NCO that is not owned by the church but works parallel with it. If I were a Nazarene I’d want to merge, not just to get this connection with World Hope, but to design a common denomination that had this kind of global and generous-spirited approach to things—founding things you don’t have to control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10. Wesleyans have the name Wesleyan.&lt;/strong&gt; If I were a Nazarene I’d want to get a better name now that the denomination has grown up. I’d want a name that was more respectable, more decent—something like “the Wesleyan Church” or “the Wesleyan Methodist Church” and Wesleyans own the rights to both of those names. (Wesleyans also own Pilgrim Holiness, but we’d give that to the Nazarenes for free.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those are the reasons I’d want to marry the Wesleyans if I were a Nazarene. That is, unless the Nazarenes insist on remaining single.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;discussion of this column is on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury April 19, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3458374754993503985?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3458374754993503985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3458374754993503985' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3458374754993503985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3458374754993503985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/04/if-i-were-nazarene-id-try-to-merge-with.html' title='If I were a Nazarene I’d try to Merge with the Wesleyans'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3503488417490592094</id><published>2011-04-12T09:55:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-12T09:59:11.388-04:00</updated><title type='text'>CHMs fork in the road</title><content type='html'>Most of my readers don’t even know what the CHM is, but I’ve always been interested in it. The Conservative Holiness Movement is a connection of independent holiness churches and mini-denominations of about a 100,000 people. In a week or so several thousand CHM pastors will gather in Dayton, Ohio for their annual convention. I like these conservative people, though most of my contemporaries reject them as “narrow-minded legalists.” I think this movement is facing a fork in the road. As with most entities with multiple names (e.g. United Nations) the monikers vie with each other. I think the CHM is deciding which name will have first place—conservative or holiness. The simple answer of course is “we’ll be both/and” but seldom is that how things turn out. I predict that in ten years this movement will be either the Conservative holiness movement or the Conservative Holiness movement. Either fork has risk. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. The CHM might become the &lt;u&gt;Conservative&lt;/u&gt; Holiness Movement &lt;/strong&gt;If conservative wins over holiness the primary issues in the movement will be about women’s hair, TV, movies, dress and worldly amusements. The movement’s niche will be to serve as a example of a conservative lifestyle that resists modernity and worldliness while living a holdout life. This is an inward-focused “remnant option.” There are several risks associated with this fork. When you make a conservative lifestyle your primary issue you always find somebody more conservative than you. If you install a soda machine at your conservative Bible school someone is sure to circulate a newsletter calling you a liberal and a compromiser. Nobody wins the conservative race. Someone can always out-conservative your conservatism. So a conservative movement’s destiny to is spawn “splits from splits.” A second risk of self-defining as conservative is letting others define your movement. After all “conservative” is a comparative word.. As those I’m comparing myself to shift their lifestyle they provide space for conservatives to liberalize and still call themselves conservatives, so conservatives delegate the definition of worldliness to the liberals they compare themselves with. When the liberals start attending movies the conservatives get TVs, and so forth. A third risk of self-defining as a conservative movement is finding you have more in common with other conservatives, no matter their theology, since conservative defines you more than your theology. A primarily conservative CHM would find greater common ground with fundamentalist Baptists, Mennonites and the Amish than other followers of John Wesley, because a conservative lifestyle reigns, not John Wesley’s theology. &lt;strong&gt;2. Or, the CHM might become the Conservative &lt;u&gt;Holiness&lt;/u&gt; Movement&lt;/strong&gt; If holiness wins over conservative the primary issues in the CHM would be about the Holy Spirit filling and cleansing Christians so that they become “radical” in their commitment to Christ. In this case, the movement’s niche would be to serve all of Christendom as a source of clear writing and powerful preaching on entire sanctification—“the place to go” if you are interested in radical commitment to Christ and His mission. This fork would mean the movement would try to get the host of casual Christians in America fully full of the Spirit and entirely sanctified. This fork is mostly outward-focused and militant. But there are risks here too. As with the 19th century holiness revival, your own church doesn’t always reap the benefits—often those renewed go home to their own denomination to revitalize your “competition.” But the biggest risk of choosing holiness over conservative is this fork requires the Holy Spirit. One can be conservative by personal discipline, and without the Holy Spirit. After all, the prizewinners for a conservative lifestyle are not in the CHM—they are in Islam. But to have a holiness revival would take the Holy Spirit’s action, and there’s a risk He won’t act or won’t use the CHM… or you and me. For the CHM to become a holiness movement is a bigger risk, though Christianity might get a bigger gain from this fork. So, what do you think? I am interested in what CHM folk think, and those who don’t even know what I’m talking about think too. For instance, if you know nothing about the CHM what about your own denomination? What fork do you think your denomination is facing? If you know the CHM—which fork do you think they’ll take? &lt;span style="color:#990000;"&gt;So, what do you think? &lt;/span&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;discussion of this column &lt;/a&gt;is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633 Keith Drury April 12, 2011 www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3503488417490592094?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3503488417490592094/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3503488417490592094' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3503488417490592094'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3503488417490592094'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/04/chms-fork-in-road.html' title='CHMs fork in the road'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3585034714736164736</id><published>2011-04-05T08:07:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-05T08:09:39.611-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Choosing Beliefs vs. Submitting to Beliefs.</title><content type='html'>Sometimes my columns are picked up and posted other places and one such posting gave me the idea for this column. My denomination, The Wesleyan Church, hosts a blog discussion and picked up my column on hell-Bell.  I was prompted to go there when a couple of anonymous folk called me out, insisting I state my own “stand” on hell. That sparked the idea for this column.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Since I host discussions online that include Calvinists and Charismatics, liberals and fundamentalists, traditionalists and emergent, some suspect my beliefs are up for grabs.  Worse, a few suspect I harbor all kinds of illegal positions on homosexuality, hell, abortion or something else.  I am sorry to disappoint them. I’m pretty traditional. So traditional that all my positions are published in detail at http://wesleyan.org/beliefs . These are doctrines of The Wesleyan Church, my denomination. I like to hear those who differ with us, including Rob Bell, but there is no light between my own stands and those of my denomination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When did I come to believe these doctrines? I did not decide them one by one.  In fact I never “decided” to believe these things—I submitted to them. I submitted when I became a member of The Wesleyan Church and submitted even more so when I was ordained.  I didn’t decide…I submitted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That disappoints some people. They imagine another process.  These folk elevate the individual, so they expected that I would have studied the Bible, read everything I could find on a subject like eternal security or tongues or hell and then I would have made up my mind on that issue, crafting my own personal statement of faith on that subject and move on to the next issue. After a decade or more of deep study, I would then have crafted my own personal statement of faith on all the issues. Then I suppose they’d have me go shopping for a denomination that matched my own private apostle’s creed. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s not how I “decided” what I believe. How it really happened for me as I was gradually exposed to doctrines as a child, teen and then a college student. But I joined my denomination long before I had read every book available on eternal security or tongues or anything else. How could I become a member of a denomination before I “made up my mind” on these things?  I submitted to the Wesleyan doctrine.  Maybe you suspect I believe these things less for submitting to them instead of deciding them? Maybe you think it would be better if I had “dated around” and tried out the other options before marrying the Wesleyan doctrine. Sorry, I didn’t date much (though I went steady with Calvinism for a few years before we broke up). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How I came to believe the Wesleyan Articles of Religion is the same way I came to believe the Apostle’s Creed.  I didn’t study the Bible for a few years, then read a couple hundred years of church fathers, then write my own personal apostle’s creed. I simply submitted to the Apostle’s Creed that’s been around a couple thousand years. I believe it just as deeply even though I didn’t write it myself. I don’t plan to revise it personally.  I believe it “as is.” &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only exception to my submission is if I want to get involved in changing my denomination’s doctrines. But, in that case, once the vote is taken, I would submit to whatever decision was made and believe it…submit to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;All this makes me look weak to the rugged individualists. They think the individual makes the final decision on doctrine. I think the church makes these decisions and the individual submits to them. I’m not smart enough to write my own Apostle’s Creed. I don’t trust myself—or any other single individual—to decide matters this important. That’s why I have submitted my beliefs to the creeds, the councils and the articles of religion of my own denomination. For me, belief is less about “choosing” than submission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury  April 5, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3585034714736164736?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3585034714736164736/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3585034714736164736' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3585034714736164736'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3585034714736164736'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/04/choosing-beliefs-vs-submitting-to.html' title='Choosing Beliefs vs. Submitting to Beliefs.'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3808311308158835007</id><published>2011-03-28T08:25:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-28T08:27:22.451-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Tenure for Pastors</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;When a minister has an opinion most other ministers disagree with, it is probably wrong.&lt;/strong&gt; But not always. I have such an opinion on the “extended call” my denomination introduced a years ago. I am probably wrong on this, but maybe not. &lt;strong&gt;At the time, it seemed like a good idea.&lt;/strong&gt; There was a day when all the local church members voted every year on whether to keep their pastor or not. Lots of preacher’s kids [believe they] sat through the springtime counting of the votes by the tellers: “Yes, no, no, yes, no, no,” tallying up weather they were going to have to move or not. Few pastors or their kids liked this. So two-year “calls” became standard, then a four-year call was introduced and eventually the “extended call” was rolled out to end this suspenseful process. If an “extended call” was approved by the entire congregation it ended congregational voting on the pastor, a semi-eternal security for pastors… or at least “tenure.” As long as a pastor satisfied their board everything was hunky-dory. And if a board got dissatisfied with their pastor they could call for a public vote to see if the rest of the church members agreed with them. &lt;strong&gt;But past solutions often become future problems.&lt;/strong&gt; The way a thing works out is not always how it was intended. It is my opinion that the extended call merely concentrates power over the pastor’s future into the hands of a smaller group. Often that group is harder to satisfy then the larger one. How it worked out is that when a board calls for a congregational vote the pastor usually resigns. That’s my point. The extended call functionally just concentrates power over the pastor’s tenure into the hands of a handful of board members. In my opinion, the extended call is not a pastor-friendly device. But not many pastors agree with me. So I am probably wrong. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; Keith Drury March 29, 2011 www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3808311308158835007?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3808311308158835007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3808311308158835007' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3808311308158835007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3808311308158835007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/03/tenure-for-pastors.html' title='Tenure for Pastors'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5587920931833249380</id><published>2011-03-22T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-22T09:31:40.218-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Julian Assange &amp; the church</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;Technology has always affected the church.&lt;/strong&gt; The printing press may have contributed to the Reformation, the telephone changed the speed with which a member could summon their pastor. The automobile multiplied the number of choices laity had for attending church. The Internet is in the process of influencing the church too—how the church communicates with its people, how pastors lead, and how information gets released. This column is especially about the latter—how information gets released.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Just 25 years ago the release of information was controlled by the insiders.&lt;/strong&gt; Back then the General Board of my denomination would hold an important election, then the denomination’s leaders would orchestrate a ripple-release of the information. The following day an official would mail a first-class letter to all the District Superintendents and College Presidents announcing the decision or vote. These insiders where then to “pass it on” to ordinary folk. Denominational officials could control what got circulated by how they drafted the letter—what they put in…and what they left out. Sometimes decisions and elections occurred that were suspenseful nail biters yet the announcement merely calmly reported the outcome. Some leaders were elected on the 17th ballot yet the release confidently reported only the final victory as if it was a forgone conclusion. Of course there were insiders who knew the details and the actual vote numbers. In those days if you were in with one of the elite you could find out the real story—why a person “really” resigned, or how close a vote really was, but the ordinary people never got the messy details.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Internet doomed the ripple release system.&lt;/strong&gt; Then smart phones drove the final nail in the coffin. Now board committee members text out to their friends blow by blow descriptions of insider dramas. By the time the “official release” is sent an hour later 50 people in Florida have already passed on the news to the rest of their denomination. Even when board members are chided to confidentiality, the bucket still seems to leak—at least if you let board members keep their smart phones and they have bathroom breaks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The younger generation has complicated the problem. &lt;/strong&gt;Many feel that inside information should not be proprietary and limited to the elites. These folk were raised in the Internet age living the “documented life.” They think nothing should be kept secret and they think it’s a moral issue. They don’t just think they have a right to information—they believe it is wrong to withhold it. So when a pastor is quietly removed and the DS announces “we felt a change needed to be made” younger people want to know exactly what happened—including all the details. Older folk think tell-all reports are damaging to the people involved and blabbering sordid details is not the loving thing to do—for anyone involved. Younger folk are legalistic and judgmental, accusing the powerful elite of self-protection and being inauthentic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Actually our culture in working through this.&lt;/strong&gt; The discussion of who has the right to know things and who has the right to tell them surrounds Julian Assange recently. And, each institution, denomination and local church has its own Julian Assanges who like to spread messy reports. Of course, we have always had muckraking and yellow journalism. What is new today are blogs and Facebook. Any single person with Internet access can now report the sordid details of insider shenanigans. Any board member who has a gripe can feed inside information to someone who will publish the whole story for all to see on their blog or Facebook page that evening. That person may only have 500 Face book “friends” yet within 24 hours 5,000 people will have read the story, copied it into hundreds of emails and forwarded it like dandelion seeds. This single report is the only story circulating so people believe it until they hear differently. They seldom do. In the messiest situations leaders seldom give an official release, so the amateur reporter’s story gets believed since it is the only edition out there. Leaders imagine they are “trusted” and feel no need of correcting false information. Politicians have learned otherwise—“an unanswered story become true in people’s eyes unless specifically answered.” Can this be true in the church too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;That’s what I’m thinking about this week.&lt;/strong&gt; Not wheather Julian Assange is a bad person or doing good in “democratizing information.” Not wheather some lay leader or denominational board member is bad or good in secretly texting their spouse the latest vote tally. Instead, I’m interested in how leaders should deal with this change in the world. Some are proposing a new kind of leadership called “authentic Leadership.” It is a style of leadership that hides nothing from followers, figuring they’re going to find out anyway. Is this a valid approach for the church too? Other strategies emerging are instituting a crack down with forced confidentiality agreements and removing people who ever leak inside information. A third strategy is pulling back important discussions away from leaky boards to have these discussions in smaller more elite groups where no minutes are kept and the leaders ask board members to “just trust u.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So what do church leader do in this changed world?&lt;/strong&gt; Should a pastor report everything that happens in a board meeting to the whole church—even non-members? What about a district board or a college board? Should denominational boards report everything to their pastors or keep some things secret? And… are your standards for those “above” you different than the standards for yourself? So what do you think…. how has the Internet and smart phones changed the way we release information in the church?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury March 22, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5587920931833249380?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5587920931833249380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5587920931833249380' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5587920931833249380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5587920931833249380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/03/julian-assange-church.html' title='Julian Assange &amp; the church'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1635178251253773567</id><published>2011-03-15T10:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-15T10:02:39.224-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A Demanding God or the Affirming God?</title><content type='html'>God is both demanding and affirming so our God-concept is not an either/or proposition really. However, most Christians (and Christian culture in the church at any one period of time) tend to “tilt” toward one or the other God concepts: the demanding God or the affirming God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The demanding God is all about justice and power. This God has high expectations of his followers and is constantly dissatisfied with how poorly we are doing. He has issued commandments and expects us to obey them all and the demanding God gets angry when we disobey or fall short of the perfection he expects of us. When we see spiritual progress the demanding God points out how short we still fall from the perfection He expects and even when we succeed He then raises the bar still higher—He is never satisfied because we will always fall short. The demanding God punishes sin and imperfection and has made a terrible hell for those who don’t measure up. This demanding God will finally judge us and it will be a fearful thing to fall into His hands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The affirming God is all about love. The affirming God is gentle and kind and speaks words of affirmation to us—He helps us cope with a difficult days. We are the first thought on the mind of the affirming God each day for he is our good shepherd and loves us so much that He would have sent Jesus to die for us even if we were the only person in the would. The affirming God is like a personal trainer—He understands us, encourages, urges us onward, overlooks our weaknesses and forgives our sins and short fallings even before we ask.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So to which God-concept do we tilt? Americans are spread in a curve from demanding to affirming, with most predictably in the middle. The group at large, however, tilts a bit toward the affirming God concept. We know this because two sociologists from Baylor University have reported on America’s God-concept.1 But, I’m less interested in America’s concept as I am the evangelical church’s concept. It is my hunch that evangelicals used to tilt toward the concept of a demanding God but in the last 30 years they are tilting toward the affirming God concept. I’m not sure I’m right on this, but I think evangelicals used to teach at the 3-4 level but now might be somewhere around 6 or 7 on the scale. Whatever the number, I think the movement is toward the affirming end. I wonder where you’d put evangelicals at large…and yourself personally?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Demanding__1_________2__________3__________4__________5__________6__________7__________8__________9__________10__Affirming&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think? Where would you place evangelical on this scale and which way is the movement occurring? Is the change a needed correction… or is it an overreaction that has gone too far?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury March 15, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;1. The book is by Paul Froese and Chris Bader titled “America’s Four Gods.” (Oxford University Press, 2010). The four Gods comes from putting two X-Y graphs together producing four quadrants. The two scales are demanding-affirming scale and a second scale on how active people think God is—what we might call the active-inactive scale. Thus using the two scales they come up with four distinct God concepts in America: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;1) The AUTHORITATIVE God [wrathful-active] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;2)The CRITICAL God [wrathful-inactive] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3) the DISTANT God [loving-inactive] and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;4) BENEVOLENT God [loving-active]. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I am only using one of the scales here—the wrathful-loving scale, titling them demanding and affirming. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1635178251253773567?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1635178251253773567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1635178251253773567' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1635178251253773567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1635178251253773567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/03/demanding-god-or-affirming-god.html' title='A Demanding God or the Affirming God?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8490989357787262456</id><published>2011-03-03T09:32:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-03T09:34:10.755-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Who goes to hell?</title><content type='html'>Who goes to hell? -- Predestination, Universalism &amp;amp; Free Will&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A question that rises in all religions is who’s in and who’s out. If the religion has a heaven and hell, this question often boils down to who gets to go to heaven and who winds up in hell. The Christian religion has answered that variously through history and it is recently being asked again, brought to the forefront by Rob Bell’s new book. A good conversation about hell might be the result, though it might become a name-calling wresting match too. So, who is in and who is out and is there a hell to shun?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I. The Catholic answer was—“those not in the Catholic Church go to hell.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;This position has been eroding since they have softened up on Protestantism recently, but the classic Catholic answer was that everyone who was not a baptized Catholic was doomed to hell. The graphic portrayal of hell as a place of eternal torment was raised to the level of an art from (literally!) in the middle ages and much of the torment-motif we still have of hell comes from this Western Catholic middle ages view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;II. The Calvinist answer was “God picks the elect and everyone else goes to hell.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;This idea dominated protestant thinking, especially in New England, so that it is sometimes considered “orthodoxy” and every other position is considered wrong. This answer argues that all men and women deserve to go to hell—even the slightest sin of a young child is enough to condemn that child to an eternity of hell. But, by grace, before the foundation of the world, God has chosen some to be saved—the “select-elect.” God did not choose based on any good of the person, or even because He knew they would someday choose Him—He did it out of sheer mercy and grace. Those who are not elect are condemned to an eternity in hell. The Calvinist answer to the hell question is—everyone who was not selected to escape goes to hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;III. The Arminian answer was: “God sends nobody to hell—people choose themselves to go to hell.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Like Calvinists, Arminians accepted the idea of hell but rejected the notion that God consigns people there. They considered the Calvinist God capricious and proposed that people themselves decide to go to hell by refusing and rejecting God. Some Arminians considered it easy to reject God and others thought it took a continual and repeated rejection before a person chose to spend eternity separated from the people of God—but God’s grace didn’t give up easy on anyone. Arminians tended to believe that all children automatically went to heaven based on God’s grace, a kind of “juvenile universalism.” Calvinists considered Arminians liberals at best and unorthodox at worst. Many consider C. S. Lewis representing this position best.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;IV. The Universalist answer was “A God’s love triumphs in the end and all will be saved…nobody goes to hell.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Not long after the Revolutionary War a new answer emerged in America, though some early church fathers may have proposed this answer during the first centuries. To these “universalists” God’s love was central. They considered a god who would pick and choose people to be saved and consign everyone else to hell was not a god at all but a devil. If God was loving and sovereign they believed God’s love would triumph in the end. No human rejection or resistance was strong enough to veto the power of God’s love. They believed all humans are the children of God. Some of these cooperate with God now and join the mission, but others delay. Bu those who delay—or even reject God—will eventually fall under the accepting love of God, even if that occurs after death. The Universalist answer to the hell question is—Love wins in the end and nobody goes to hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, who goes to hell?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps Rob Bell is only verbalizing a position most evangelicals already have taken. While evangelicals insist on having “hell on the books” and will fight furiously against anyone who says nobody is going to hell, functionally most evangelicals are universalists. Several years ago I asked my students fresh out of high school two questions: 1) Is there a real hell where people go and are punished? And 2) name three people you believe are going to hell unless they repent. Virtually every student agreed with the first question—there is definitely a hell. But less than 10% could name three living people who they thought might actually go to hell. They listed a few dead people, like Adolph Hitler, who would go to hell, but most of them thought all their relatives and virtually every student on this campus would not go to hell. In the discussion follow-up I asked how many had heard a sermon developing the idea of hell and exactly two of them had ever heard preaching on hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I think Rob Bell and others have done a favor to the Christian community by proposing the old Universalist answer to the hell question again. Christians need a discussion on hell again—what is it, where is it, what happens there and who goes to hell and why? Virtually all of us have “hell on the books” in our denomination’s doctrinal positions. But what is our functionally position? We to have a talk about hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury March 8, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8490989357787262456?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8490989357787262456/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8490989357787262456' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8490989357787262456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8490989357787262456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/03/who-goes-to-hell.html' title='Who goes to hell?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1012468670314551937</id><published>2011-02-22T11:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-22T11:07:59.156-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Happy 50th Birthday</title><content type='html'>Happy birthday and welcome to your 50’s! The 50’s are a great decade—here’s some of what you might expect the next ten years:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Productivity &amp;amp; influence.&lt;/strong&gt; The next ten years you will probably be more productive for the kingdom than all your years to date (and maybe even all your years before and after the 50’s combined). You are not longer a young up-and-coming minister and you’ll not be an older minister on the decline—in your 50’s you will be at your prime. Choose wisely where to spend this productivity. The 50’s may also bring you your greatest power, and you can use that power variously…chose wisely on what you spend your power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Burnout.&lt;/strong&gt; It happens in the 50’s to some pastors. Having devotions won’t prevent it—it is more complex than that. Choose wisely what you light on fire lest you light yourself afire. If you set yourself afire many will come to watch, however. When the fire goes out they won’t stay for the ashes—they’ll leave.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. The great compromise.&lt;/strong&gt; In your 50’s you’ll admit that some of your dreams probably won’t happen. This might be compromise to some but it is realism to others. On the other hand you might realize it is your last chance to accomplish other dreams. People who imagine doing all kinds of interesting things in their 60’s seldom do them unless they started in their 50’s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Empty Nest.&lt;/strong&gt; Somewhere in this decade the kids will be gone and you can have a second honeymoon. Maybe every week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Marital changes.&lt;/strong&gt; Some grow closer in their 50’s, others grow apart. It is your decision. In the 50’s many husbands get more like their wife has been all along. Some say it is sanctification. Or maybe it is just age. Whichever, most couples in the 50’s consider their marriage far more satisfying than the 40’s and 30’s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. Physical changes.&lt;/strong&gt; One of the secrets making the 50’s so good is you will quit looking back and start looking ahead. Men in their 40’s tend to look back to their 30’s and regret how much they’ve lost; in the 50’s they look ahead and rejoice at how much you’ve still got. In your 50’s you begin believing that you are the fittest you’ll probably ever be—and that changes how you think. You may notice a bit of hearing loss, reduced vigor, and might even need an occasional nap But you’ll still be more productive since you will have learned to work smarter not longer. 50’s are a time of focus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7. “Last job.”&lt;/strong&gt; Somewhere in your 50’s you’ll realize that you are making your last job choice. You may continue doing what you’re doing or change to another church, but somewhere in the 50’s most males start “counting down.” In the early 50’s you might say to yourself, “I probably have one more church in me” but by the end of the 50’s you will either be in that church or have settled in your own church as you “last full time ministry.” Some are able to move to other work in their 60’s but for most men it is pretty rare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8. Health scare.&lt;/strong&gt; You or your wife might have a serious health scare in your 50’s. It is a precursor to your later years. Let’s hope you skip this. But be prepared to hold some funerals in your 50’s of people younger than you and at the visitation people will say “they had a good life.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10. Family changes.&lt;/strong&gt; You may enter this decade with your kids finally leaving home but you will probably leave the 50’s as a grandparent. During this decade your children might quit coming home for Christmas—you’ll go to their home. The focus on your family will decrease; the focus on their family will increase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;11. Faith.&lt;/strong&gt; You may settle some faith issue you took for granted in your 40’s 30’s and before. You may face some doubts you never entertained before. You might enter what James Fowler calls “conjunctive faith.” You might become more close-minded and more open-minded simultaneously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;12. Generativity.&lt;/strong&gt; This is the decade when you choose “generativity or stagnation” according to psychologists Erik Erikson. You will use your “power and productivity” to focus your energy on yourself (stagnation) or invest it by multiplying in the coming generation (generativity). By the end of your 50’s you be in the habit of protecting your own power or promoting the next generation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;Have a happy birthday! Your coming decade can be the best years of your life (except, of course, your 60’s—but I’ll tell you about those in another ten years!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury February 22, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1012468670314551937?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1012468670314551937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1012468670314551937' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1012468670314551937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1012468670314551937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/02/happy-50th-birthday.html' title='Happy 50th Birthday'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3150047480735381830</id><published>2011-02-15T08:48:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-15T08:49:43.546-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Should Christian Women have Long Hair?</title><content type='html'>The number of Christians who believe women should keep their hair long is small but significant. The group includes not just the Amish and many Mennonites but also some Baptists, Charismatics and a large group known as the “Conservative Holiness Movement, or CHM. The CHM is made up of independent holiness churches plus a dozen or so mini-denominations. Some of these churches have always been independent while others split from the larger “mainline Holiness denominations” in the 1950’s and 1960’s. There are about 100,000 Christians associated with the CHM most of the women keep their hair long.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this column isn’t about the CHM…it is about hermeneutics. The Conservative Holiness Movement believes they are simply taking the Scriptures seriously when they insist that women keep their hair long (and that men keep shorter hair). They understand the passage in 1 Corinthians 11 to apply to more than a one-time historic setting but as being applicable to today as well. They see the passage calling for a distinction between males and females. They think the text suggests that it is the “natural order” for a man to have short hair and a woman to have longer hair (for it is her glory). So the CHM simply expects women to keep their hair long and men to have their hair short.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know, I know, people in the mainline holiness movement don’t like to be reminded of this. We have long ago laughed away our grandmother’s hair and such “legalism.” But most mainline holiness denominations have not laughed off the Bible. Which brings us to the topic of the column: hermeneutics. Assuming you take the Bible seriously and you consider 1 Corinthians 11 inspired, what are the hermeneutical principles you use on these verses? I’d like to invite a discussion of hermeneutics by using these 16 verses as a test case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what are the principles you use on interpreting these verses? What is your hermeneutic for the Scriptures printed below this column?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury February 15, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;1 Corinthians 11 (NIV)&lt;br /&gt;[1-6] I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.&lt;br /&gt;[7-12] A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.&lt;br /&gt;[13-16] Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3150047480735381830?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3150047480735381830/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3150047480735381830' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3150047480735381830'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3150047480735381830'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/02/should-christian-women-have-long-hair.html' title='Should Christian Women have Long Hair?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3913604281202766676</id><published>2011-02-08T12:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-08T12:40:32.661-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='music'/><title type='text'>Music to my Ears</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;Music has tremendous power to influence people&lt;/strong&gt;. For instance, music can trigger memories. A few notes of “Just as I am” can transport people back in time to a 1950’s altar call or a Billy Graham crusade. Specific tunes can remind a person of certain people or places and hearing the music resurrects the person like a ghost. Music is great at eliciting feelings too. A movie producer can get an audience to feel a certain way no matter what shows on the screen by manipulating their feelings through the background music. Music not only triggers memories and feelings but it instructs and unifies too. Church folk get as much theology from the music as the preaching. When a congregation melds together singing a song it can produces a kind of gestalt out-of-body unifying experience that is more then the sum of the parts. Because music has so much power is why we dedicate so much of our worship services to it… and maybe why so many church complaints are about the music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Everything I described above is accurate for almost everybody.&lt;/strong&gt; It is not true of me. I know, confessing music isn’t important to me is like admitting I don’t care for chocolate or ice cream. But I’m telling the truth—music plays a minor role in my life. I have tried to make it more important so I could be normal and be more like my wife and sons but it just doesn’t take. I even went so far as to buy an iPod a year ago and load it up with all the songs I ought to love. I use my iPod to read email and to listen to lectures and sermons. And only twice have I ever used it to listen to music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I’m not normal when it comes to music.&lt;/strong&gt; I experience all those qualities mentioned above through a different avenue. I experience triggering memories, feelings, instruction and unification through words not music. What I look forward to in church isn’t the singing but the call to worship, the prayers (the Lord’s prayer especially), the responsive reading and especially the sermon. Te most meaningful part of the Lord’s Supper to me are the words of institution and the ritual words the minister repeats. I sound malformed to normal people. Maybe you’ve never met a person like me, but we are out here...if only a few of us. We can take or leave music—it really isn’t that important to us. It is like oatmeal to other people. We don’t hate it and we don’t love it. We can have some from time to time and it is OK or we could go without it for a few years without missing it. People like me can listen to Todd Guy’s chorale sing the Halleluiah Chorus and what moves us isn’t the music but we will intently and get blessed by the lyrics! Ok, I’m different. My church offers a variety of worship venues with different styles of music but that doesn’t matter to me. What my church has done though is target one venue for the marginal group of people like me—people who love words. In that venue we sing one song a cappella but the rest of the service is about words. Ahhhhhh. I love that service… because words are music to my ears.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you ever met someone like this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury February 8, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3913604281202766676?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3913604281202766676/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3913604281202766676' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3913604281202766676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3913604281202766676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/02/music-to-my-ears.html' title='Music to my Ears'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8146227036642354901</id><published>2011-02-01T07:36:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-01T07:38:30.788-05:00</updated><title type='text'>An interesting Mind Experiment</title><content type='html'>I’m thinking this week about a mind experiment that relates to church, but first some background in education. A few decades ago higher education was pretty much the exclusive domain of not-for-profit institutions with sprawling campuses and a large faculty who “shared the governance” of the institution. Then along came John Sperling who thought he might be able to run an educational institution more efficiently like a business than an educational institution—and make some money doing it to boot. Sure there were problems: a college run for profit would have to pay taxes and people couldn’t give tax-deductible donations to it, but this man thought his efficiency program would make up for these things. His plan was four-fold:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Target a group missed by traditionalists (in his case it was working adults who were stuck if they couldn’t go in the daytime to traditional classes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Invent a new delivery system to reach this group (in his case hold classes in the evenings after they got off work, and later Internet classes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Save bezillions of dollars on staff (in his case using mostly part-time adjuncts to teach instead of expensive full time professors).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Advertise so aggressively they can’t ignore you (in his case with multi-million dollar media blitzes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The result is the University of Phoenix with a half-million students that is a for-profit company that competes briskly with the non-profit cartel of educational institutions and in the process makes hundreds of millions of dollars for its founder and its shareholders. When the University of Phoenix started, traditional educators scoffed and predicted collapse in a few years. It did not collapse but became the pioneer and model for other business-run educational institutions like the Christian Grand Canyon University that makes money for their owners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, that’s the background in education, now to the church and the intriguing mind experiment: If you were to invent a private company to plant and grow a church, and named yourself President, what sort of changes would you make in the way you’d do church? Don’t freak out—this is only a mind experiment, but play along and you’ll have fun and maybe we’ll gain some great insights. If your church was a business and you were the owner, what would you do differently regarding staff, delivery systems, finances, and operations? Now, don’t skip to the “what we can learn” part too fast—do the experiment first… if you were the church’s owner instead of the people what would you do differently?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;is on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury February 1, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8146227036642354901?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8146227036642354901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8146227036642354901' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8146227036642354901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8146227036642354901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/02/interesting-mind-experiment.html' title='An interesting Mind Experiment'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7421850378493789738</id><published>2011-01-24T06:21:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-24T06:24:10.303-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Six Stages of Outrage</title><content type='html'>In my reading I’ve noticed the church seems to go through stages in its outrage against evil. Mostly I’ve been studying the history of alcohol. I can’t forget other issues completely but the stages in the alcohol outrage seems to provide to most accessible template for examining this issue. Here are the five stages history offers over the church’s outrage against alcohol:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Alcohol is EVIL and it needs prohibited for everyone &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first stage is outrage over the evil of a thing—in this case “demon alcohol.” Stories were told of how it ruined families, promoted other evil and society would be a better if there was no alcohol at all—not a single drink. The church is not satisfied that “we Christians do drink” they wanted nobody in the country to drink… which of course led to prohibition. Id the church is successful in this first stage it leads to laws which prohibit the behavior—not just because it is sin… but because it is evil and needs banished from society—even from the lives of unbelievers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Alcohol is SIN and no Christian should do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;When the church’s attempt to ban a thing for all people fails (as it did when prohibition was repealed) we then default to stage two—agreeing that “Christians don’t do it.” The vast majority of “evangelicals” of the post-prohibition were unanimous—“Christians don’t drink.” At this stage like-minded denominations unite to reject the “so-called Christians” who practice the thing. In the case of alcohol, the tee-totalers were Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Quakers and the Disciples of Christ who scolded the Episcopalians and Roman Catholics for allowing alcohol. At this stage there is a subtle shift in terminology—the thing is called “sin” more than “evil.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Abstinence is our TRADITION and we don’t drink.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Over time prohibitions break down. Methodists met Presbyterians and Congregationalists who had started using alcohol? Nazarenes went to Europe and met Nazarenes who happily visited the local pub—and not just to witness. At this stage a denomination quits calling the thing “sin” because they know there are Christians who do it—after all their own kids do it! Yet they hold on to the notion that for us “we prohibit using alcohol—it’s our rich tradition.” At this the discussion moves beyond the question of evil or sin and is more about “keeping your promise” or “submitting to the Christian community.” Abstaining may be more of a protest or test of submission as anything to do with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Alcohol is UNWISE for leaders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Churches go through stage rapidly often simultaneously with the above stage. At this stage the thing becomes acceptable at one level but unacceptable at another “higher” level. “Community Members” are permitted to drink but “Full Members” are expected to be tee-totalers. Or, maybe the laity are permitted to drink while the denomination insists that ministers won’t (e.g. today’s Methodists).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Alcohol is QUESTIONABLE and we urge members to avoid it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;At stage five the behavior is still suspect, but not enough to make it a rule. Members are “urged” toward a higher level of living by totally abstaining as a matter of witness or as a means of self-denial. At this stage the rule becomes advise; the decree melts into recommendation. In my denomination at this stage a thing is moved from “Membership commitments” to “Special Directions.” A denomination at this stage still prefers total abstinence but they no longer insist on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. Alcohol is NOT AN ISSUE to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the sixth stage the thing is taken off the table altogether. Ask a Congregationalist church member today what they believe about total abstinence and you’ll get a perplexed look as if you’ve asked them what their stance on wearing jewelry is. Denominations who once were at the forefront of trying to banish a behavior from the entire nation often eventually are not even able to banish it from their midst—indeed they don’t even imagine the thing is an issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The history of alcohol is at it later stages in the USA among evangelicals so that’s not the only issues I’ll bethinking about this week. I’m more interested in the recent movements for social reform—things like prohibiting abortions or homosexual marriage. Will denominations go through these six stages on these issue too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I can hear it already—some are being tempted to say, “but these things are Biblical and those things they fussed about in the past weren’t.” I don’t want to get into a Bible wrestling match but I need to say that all these denominations 100 years ago were just as sure about prohibition as evangelicals are today about abortion and homosexual marriage—in fact a close reading of the documents shows they were more sure. So saying “But the Bible is clear” won’t guarantee these stages won’t happen. What will?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what I’m pondering this week: What would keep the church from not going through the same stages when it comes to abortion or homosexual marriage? At what stage is your denomination already? Are these stages inevitable? Are they bad or good?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury January 25, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7421850378493789738?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7421850378493789738/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7421850378493789738' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7421850378493789738'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7421850378493789738'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/01/six-stages-of-outrage.html' title='Six Stages of Outrage'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-750007864053085438</id><published>2011-01-18T07:09:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-18T07:27:21.187-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Calling for Change</title><content type='html'>If you are a preacher you sometimes call people to change. You preach a sermon on what people ought to be then come to the end of it and close the sermon with some sort of call to change. I’ve noticed there are two main models for how to make that final call to change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. THE SEEK MODEL&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Seek model assumes listeners don’t have the power to change—they can’t change without the Holy Spirit “doing something” in them. It posits changing power outside the listen in the Holy Spirit. A preacher with the seek model might end a sermon by calling listeners to seek changing power from God. This might mean an invitation to come forward to kneel at the altar and “wait on the Lord” until this “seeker” senses God had “done a new work” in his or her soul—cleaning, delivering, empowering or purging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. THE DECIDE MODEL&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Decide model posits changing power in the listener—either in their own will to decide, or because they already received the Holy Spirit when they were born again and already have all they need to live a holy life. A preacher with a decide model might end a sermon by calling listeners to “decide now” to change. It could mean an invitation to raise a hand indicating their “decision,” or it could mean coming forward as a statement of will. There is no elongated seeking or waiting in this model because what is holding up change is the person’s will and once a decision is made the change happens…or at least change begins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These two models affect how a church approaches people getting saved too. Those with the seek model tend to expect a person to repent and seek salvation for a while at the altar until they know God has heard their prayers and has truly saved them—they wait for assurance, then stand to testify about it. For churches using the decide model conversion might be as low key as reading a short prayer in a little booklet and “taking it by faith,” or maybe raising one’s head and nodding to the preacher at the end of the service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m thinking about calling for change this week and the models we use in doing that. For instance, what are the theological assumptions behind each of these models? How does changing culture affect which model we use more? Why do preachers—even denominations—shift from one model to another over time? Which denominations are more inclined toward which of these two models? What other models are emerging? How do we call for change and what does that say about our assumptions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=161502633"&gt;The discussion of this column is on Facebook:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury January 18, 2011&lt;br /&gt;www.TuesdayColumn.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-750007864053085438?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/750007864053085438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=750007864053085438' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/750007864053085438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/750007864053085438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/01/calling-for-change.html' title='Calling for Change'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-615172145588363250</id><published>2011-01-09T15:28:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-09T15:31:08.681-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Impressions from [the Wesleyan pastor's] "Gathering"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/gathering.impressions.2011.htm"&gt;My impressions from The Gathering...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(The column is at the above link, and also posted at Facebook... to participate in the discussion "friend me" on Facebook...)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-615172145588363250?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/615172145588363250/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=615172145588363250' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/615172145588363250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/615172145588363250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2011/01/impressions-from-wesleyan-pastors.html' title='Impressions from [the Wesleyan pastor&apos;s] &quot;Gathering&quot;'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5869016086400903738</id><published>2010-09-01T18:31:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-01T18:34:32.240-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Tuesday Column Responses now on Facebook</title><content type='html'>I'm moving with the shift in the Internet traffic during the last year...  so now I'm hosting responses to the Tuesday Column on Facebook... &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?id=161502633&amp;amp;notes_tab=app_2347471856"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5869016086400903738?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5869016086400903738/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5869016086400903738' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5869016086400903738'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5869016086400903738'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/09/tuesday-column-responses-now-on.html' title='Tuesday Column Responses now on Facebook'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4453469777179973282</id><published>2010-04-25T15:51:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-04-25T15:58:04.379-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gone Fishin'</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Well, I actually don't fish... but here's &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/summer.2010.htm"&gt;what I'm doing this summer&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a great summer all... see you again next September!&lt;br /&gt;--Keith Drury&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4453469777179973282?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4453469777179973282/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4453469777179973282' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4453469777179973282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4453469777179973282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/04/gone-fishin-for-summer.html' title='Gone Fishin&apos;'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1720636585819617228</id><published>2010-04-18T17:34:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-04-18T17:37:11.504-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What Wesleyan believe about the Bible</title><content type='html'>To help Wesleyan Seniors understand &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/truewesleyan.bible.tc.htm"&gt;what Wesleyans believe about the Bible &lt;/a&gt;we wrote this explanation. How does YOUR denomination's position (or you own) agree or differ form the Wesleyan doctrine on this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1720636585819617228?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1720636585819617228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1720636585819617228' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1720636585819617228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1720636585819617228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-wesleyan-believe-about-bible.html' title='What Wesleyan believe about the Bible'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7153602443864873175</id><published>2010-04-11T13:41:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-04-11T13:43:38.193-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What Wesleyan believe about Sanctification</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Here's how we explain to students &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/truewesleyan.sanctification.tc.htm"&gt;what Wesleyans believe about Sanctification&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7153602443864873175?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7153602443864873175/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7153602443864873175' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7153602443864873175'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7153602443864873175'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-wesleyan-believe-about.html' title='What Wesleyan believe about Sanctification'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8513326480298317760</id><published>2010-04-04T18:20:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-04-04T18:21:52.967-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boomers'/><title type='text'>Remaking the church for Boomers</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I found these old notes on &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/remaking.the.church.for.boomers.htm"&gt;remaking the church for Boomers&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do &lt;u&gt;YOU&lt;/u&gt; think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;     How'd we do?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8513326480298317760?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8513326480298317760/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8513326480298317760' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8513326480298317760'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8513326480298317760'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/04/remaking-church-for-boomers.html' title='Remaking the church for Boomers'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4505498802313705172</id><published>2010-03-28T16:14:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-03-28T16:15:34.760-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sunday school'/><title type='text'>History of the Sunday School</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;My students have put together a "&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/sunday.school.history.htm"&gt;Short History of the Sunday School&lt;/a&gt;" which I think it pretty good... it asks a provoking question at the end...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4505498802313705172?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4505498802313705172/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4505498802313705172' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4505498802313705172'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4505498802313705172'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/03/history-of-sunday-school.html' title='History of the Sunday School'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7449502231101713290</id><published>2010-03-21T17:33:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-03-21T17:37:08.338-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Tea Party Comes to Church</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;The tea party movement isn't just a political movement--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/tea.party.comes.to.church.htm"&gt;the tea party has come to church&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7449502231101713290?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7449502231101713290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7449502231101713290' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7449502231101713290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7449502231101713290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/03/tea-party-comes-to-church.html' title='The Tea Party Comes to Church'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7307783144034188741</id><published>2010-03-14T18:13:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-03-14T18:14:17.512-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><title type='text'>Searching for a New Gospel</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Seems to me that &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/new.gospel.htm"&gt;Evangelicals are Searching for a New Gospel&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do &lt;u&gt;YOU &lt;/u&gt;think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7307783144034188741?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7307783144034188741/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7307783144034188741' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7307783144034188741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7307783144034188741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/03/searching-for-new-gospel.html' title='Searching for a New Gospel'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5018051330796411326</id><published>2010-03-07T16:24:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-07T16:25:48.711-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Trips to Haiti are up; Trips to the altar are down</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/haiti.altar.htm"&gt;Trips to Haiti are up; Trips to the altar are down&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;--Steve Deneff&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5018051330796411326?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5018051330796411326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5018051330796411326' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5018051330796411326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5018051330796411326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/03/trips-to-haiti-are-up-trips-to-altar.html' title='Trips to Haiti are up; Trips to the altar are down'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6565033964142762517</id><published>2010-03-01T15:31:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-07T16:26:13.856-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='education'/><title type='text'>Why don't YOU get a Spring Break?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I'm wondering &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/spring.break.htm"&gt;why YOU don't get a spring break?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6565033964142762517?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6565033964142762517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6565033964142762517' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6565033964142762517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6565033964142762517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/03/why-dont-you-get-spring-break.html' title='Why don&apos;t YOU get a Spring Break?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4114371544596275376</id><published>2010-02-21T16:37:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-21T16:39:08.363-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alcohol'/><title type='text'>Two Prohibition Movements</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;What lessons come from these &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/prohibition.abortion.htm"&gt;two prohibition movements&lt;/a&gt;? (Perhaps three?)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4114371544596275376?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4114371544596275376/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4114371544596275376' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4114371544596275376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4114371544596275376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/02/two-prohibition-movements.html' title='Two Prohibition Movements'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4349002571234106949</id><published>2010-02-14T18:30:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-14T18:32:03.205-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Membership'/><title type='text'>Is it a sin to drink beer?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I'm interested in &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/the.holiness.question.htm"&gt;the questions we ask&lt;/a&gt;... as students (or as church members).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what do you think?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4349002571234106949?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4349002571234106949/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4349002571234106949' title='36 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4349002571234106949'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4349002571234106949'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/02/is-it-sin-to-drink-beer.html' title='Is it a sin to drink beer?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>36</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-9143759143390326278</id><published>2010-02-07T15:31:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-07T15:32:19.291-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='indiana'/><title type='text'>I'm not from around here (Indiana) myself</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I'm not from around here myself--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/living.in.indiana.htm"&gt;Living in Indiana&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-9143759143390326278?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/9143759143390326278/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=9143759143390326278' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/9143759143390326278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/9143759143390326278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/02/im-not-from-around-here-indiana-myself.html' title='I&apos;m not from around here (Indiana) myself'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-493239009355827108</id><published>2010-01-31T14:42:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-31T14:44:31.957-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><title type='text'>Our Senior Pastor is in trouble!</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pastor.obama.htm"&gt;Our senior pastor is in trouble... &lt;/a&gt;and its gettin' messy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-493239009355827108?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/493239009355827108/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=493239009355827108' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/493239009355827108'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/493239009355827108'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/our-senior-pastor-is-in-trouble.html' title='Our Senior Pastor is in trouble!'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7101584908998548172</id><published>2010-01-24T19:25:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-24T19:27:58.088-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Women'/><title type='text'>The Women-in-Leadership Scale (a self-study)</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Where do you come on on the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/women.as.leaders.scale.htm"&gt;WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP scale&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7101584908998548172?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7101584908998548172/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7101584908998548172' title='35 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7101584908998548172'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7101584908998548172'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/women-in-leadership-scale-self-study.html' title='The Women-in-Leadership Scale (a self-study)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>35</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8387007407018921550</id><published>2010-01-19T09:42:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-19T09:44:07.629-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><title type='text'>Pastor Leno is coming Back</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;A statement by the Board of Administration on &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/leno.conan.htm"&gt;the return of Pastor Leno&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8387007407018921550?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8387007407018921550/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8387007407018921550' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8387007407018921550'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8387007407018921550'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/pastor-leno-is-coming-back.html' title='Pastor Leno is coming Back'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1664129198885774917</id><published>2010-01-17T16:36:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-17T16:38:48.182-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holiness movement'/><title type='text'>(future history) HOLINESS ANONYMOUS</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I found &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/holiness.anonymous.htm"&gt;this intersting item &lt;/a&gt;searching Goggle 2060...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1664129198885774917?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1664129198885774917/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1664129198885774917' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1664129198885774917'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1664129198885774917'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/future-history-holiness-anonymous.html' title='(future history) HOLINESS ANONYMOUS'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5010283752880902597</id><published>2010-01-10T18:01:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T18:02:38.222-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><title type='text'>Making Dreams come true</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I've gone through &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/dreams.goals.habits.htm"&gt;three stages in seeing dreams come true&lt;/a&gt;... How about you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5010283752880902597?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5010283752880902597/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5010283752880902597' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5010283752880902597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5010283752880902597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/making-dreams-come-true.html' title='Making Dreams come true'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5650054088363204648</id><published>2010-01-06T17:04:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-06T17:05:34.040-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Changes 2000.... 2010</title><content type='html'>I'm pondering the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/2000-2010.htm"&gt;changes since 2000&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5650054088363204648?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5650054088363204648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5650054088363204648' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5650054088363204648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5650054088363204648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/changes-2000-2010.html' title='Changes 2000.... 2010'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2175073840272274399</id><published>2010-01-03T17:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-03T17:08:46.175-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Procrastination</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I am guilty of &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/procrastination.htm"&gt;procrastination&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2175073840272274399?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2175073840272274399/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2175073840272274399' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2175073840272274399'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2175073840272274399'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2010/01/procrastination.html' title='Procrastination'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2316558938746075469</id><published>2009-12-20T17:16:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-20T17:18:48.497-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alcohol'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><title type='text'>The Rest of the Story...</title><content type='html'>The rest of the story... The powerful &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/rest.of.the.story.g.htm"&gt;effect of a single sermon &lt;/a&gt;by John Wesley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...Ho Ho Ho... have a Merry Christmas!  ;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2316558938746075469?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2316558938746075469/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2316558938746075469' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2316558938746075469'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2316558938746075469'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/12/rest-of-story.html' title='The Rest of the Story...'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-982506228707562921</id><published>2009-12-13T12:54:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-13T13:00:14.379-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Genetics and Sanctification</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://didache.nts.edu/index.php?option=com_docman&amp;task=doc_view&amp;gid=771&amp;Itemid= "&gt;Possible Influence of Genetic Factors on Sin, Sanctification and Theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://didache.nts.edu/index.php?option=com_docman&amp;task=doc_view&amp;gid=771&amp;Itemid= &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(keith Drury and Burt Webb)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-982506228707562921?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/982506228707562921/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=982506228707562921' title='30 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/982506228707562921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/982506228707562921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/12/genetics-and-sanctification.html' title='Genetics and Sanctification'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>30</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8765527019789329314</id><published>2009-12-06T18:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T18:05:11.507-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><title type='text'>Dave Ramsey for Treasury!</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I'm supporing &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/dave.ramsey.for.treasury.htm"&gt;Dave Ramsey for Secretary of the Treasury&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8765527019789329314?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8765527019789329314/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8765527019789329314' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8765527019789329314'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8765527019789329314'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/12/dave-ramsey-for-treasury.html' title='Dave Ramsey for Treasury!'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5757583533908136388</id><published>2009-11-29T16:05:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-29T16:07:15.015-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holy spirit'/><title type='text'>There's Someone Stalking Me.</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Really!... &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/grieve.quench.resist.htm"&gt;someone's stalking me&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5757583533908136388?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5757583533908136388/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5757583533908136388' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5757583533908136388'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5757583533908136388'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/theres-someone-stalking-me.html' title='There&apos;s Someone Stalking Me.'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8026544933710637096</id><published>2009-11-22T15:08:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-28T08:54:55.413-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holiness movement'/><title type='text'>The Curious Doctrine of Entire Sanctification</title><content type='html'>Most denominations have a doctrine that needs explaining. For Wesleyans it is &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/curious.doctrine.of.entire.sanctification.htm"&gt;the curious doctrine of entire sanctification&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So what do you think?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8026544933710637096?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8026544933710637096/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8026544933710637096' title='52 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8026544933710637096'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8026544933710637096'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/curious-doctrine-of-entire.html' title='The Curious Doctrine of Entire Sanctification'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>52</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3534842462277104303</id><published>2009-11-15T15:35:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-15T15:38:29.986-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC#11 Merger with Wesleyan Methodists (1966-1968)</title><content type='html'>And now the final installment of the Pilgrim Holiness History...  &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.11.htm"&gt;Merger with the Wesleyan Methodists--1966-1968&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time to think about past mergers (and future mergers?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3534842462277104303?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3534842462277104303/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3534842462277104303' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3534842462277104303'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3534842462277104303'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/phc11-merger-with-wesleyan-methodists.html' title='PHC#11 Merger with Wesleyan Methodists (1966-1968)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2045342123597535023</id><published>2009-11-08T15:38:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-08T15:42:17.083-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #10 "Pre-marital challenges" (1962-1966)</title><content type='html'>Pilgrim Holiness Chirch (1962-1966)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.10.htm"&gt;Premarital challenges--Civil Rights, a Dubious Investment and Wedding Rings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2045342123597535023?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2045342123597535023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2045342123597535023' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2045342123597535023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2045342123597535023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/phc-10-pre-marital-challenges-1962-1966.html' title='PHC #10 &quot;Pre-marital challenges&quot; (1962-1966)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4770777612515107970</id><published>2009-11-01T14:33:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:35:04.433-05:00</updated><title type='text'>When NOT to do a Wedding?</title><content type='html'>When do you as a pastor &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/when.NOT.to.do.a.wedding.htm"&gt;"just say no" to performing a wedding&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;wedding policy? And why?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4770777612515107970?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4770777612515107970/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4770777612515107970' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4770777612515107970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4770777612515107970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/when-not-to-do-wedding.html' title='When NOT to do a Wedding?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7850345286145227512</id><published>2009-11-01T14:26:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:45:52.898-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #9: "Middle Age Spread" (1946-1952)</title><content type='html'>The pilgrims reach "&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.9.htm"&gt;Middle Age Spread&lt;/a&gt;" (1946-1952)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7850345286145227512?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7850345286145227512/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7850345286145227512' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7850345286145227512'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7850345286145227512'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/11/phc-middle-age-spread-1946-1952.html' title='PHC #9: &quot;Middle Age Spread&quot; (1946-1952)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5088913012401855281</id><published>2009-10-25T14:50:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:45:38.640-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #8: Explosive Church Growth--1930-1946</title><content type='html'>8. The Pilgrim Holiness Church: &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.8.htm"&gt;Explosive Church Growth&lt;/a&gt;--1930-1946&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5088913012401855281?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5088913012401855281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5088913012401855281' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5088913012401855281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5088913012401855281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/phc-explosive-church-growth-1930-1946.html' title='PHC #8: Explosive Church Growth--1930-1946'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6103736727472139341</id><published>2009-10-25T14:48:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2009-10-25T14:50:25.384-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Sins of Old Age</title><content type='html'>What are the particular &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/sins.of.old.age.htm"&gt;sins of old age&lt;/a&gt; ..and how can they be resisted?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6103736727472139341?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6103736727472139341/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6103736727472139341' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6103736727472139341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6103736727472139341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/sins-of-old-age.html' title='The Sins of Old Age'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2771273080031532267</id><published>2009-10-18T17:56:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:45:24.565-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #7: The Finch Dissention--1936</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Continuing our Pilgrim History series....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. The Pilgrim Holiness Church--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.7.htm"&gt;the Finch Dissention of 1936&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2771273080031532267?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2771273080031532267/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2771273080031532267' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2771273080031532267'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2771273080031532267'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/phc-finch-dissention-1936.html' title='PHC #7: The Finch Dissention--1936'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2713190042340365993</id><published>2009-10-17T18:31:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:36:34.843-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sermon notes'/><title type='text'>From Great to Good</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/from.great.to.good.htm"&gt;From Great to Good&lt;/a&gt;. Sermon notes... From the first Wesley Seminary Convocation @ Indiana Wesleyan University&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do &lt;u&gt;you &lt;/u&gt;think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2713190042340365993?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2713190042340365993/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2713190042340365993' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2713190042340365993'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2713190042340365993'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/from-great-to-good.html' title='From Great to Good'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7215313314926257529</id><published>2009-10-11T16:35:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:44:46.396-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #6: Consolidation &amp; Centralization (1930)</title><content type='html'>The Pilgrim Holiness Church of 1930 -- &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.6.htm"&gt;consolidation and centralization&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7215313314926257529?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7215313314926257529/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7215313314926257529' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7215313314926257529'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7215313314926257529'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/pilgrims-consolidation-centralization.html' title='PHC #6: Consolidation &amp; Centralization (1930)'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6676905915084612139</id><published>2009-10-04T14:46:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:44:30.095-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #5: Did Pilgrims split from the Nazarenes?</title><content type='html'>Pilgrim Holiness Church history #5--1912-1917... &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.5.htm"&gt;Did the Pilgrims Split from the Church of the Nazarene?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;--Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6676905915084612139?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6676905915084612139/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6676905915084612139' title='45 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6676905915084612139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6676905915084612139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/did-pilgrims-split-from-nazarenes.html' title='PHC #5: Did Pilgrims split from the Nazarenes?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>45</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8173897974730110740</id><published>2009-10-03T16:10:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:37:48.281-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Doctrine of Entitlement</title><content type='html'>I run into the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/doctrine.of.entitlement.htm"&gt;Doctrine of Entitlement &lt;/a&gt;more frequently today then ever before. What do you think of this popular doctrine?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8173897974730110740?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8173897974730110740/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8173897974730110740' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8173897974730110740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8173897974730110740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/10/doctrine-of-entitlement.html' title='The Doctrine of Entitlement'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4841706920848839630</id><published>2009-09-27T16:48:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:44:08.658-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #4-Mergers and acquisitions 1919-1929</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0)"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Pilgroms holiness Church--mergers and acqisitions&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0)"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.4.htm"&gt;http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.4.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4841706920848839630?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4841706920848839630/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4841706920848839630' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4841706920848839630'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4841706920848839630'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/pilgrim-holiness-church-1919-1929.html' title='PHC #4-Mergers and acquisitions 1919-1929'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7722946587670695708</id><published>2009-09-20T17:39:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:43:49.806-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #3: Acting like a denomination --1905-1919</title><content type='html'>Continuing with the history of The Pilgrim Holiness Church--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.3.htm"&gt;acting more like a denomiantion&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7722946587670695708?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7722946587670695708/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7722946587670695708' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7722946587670695708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7722946587670695708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/pilgrims-1905-1919.html' title='PHC #3: Acting like a denomination --1905-1919'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8335877740082018581</id><published>2009-09-13T16:18:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:39:19.310-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Spirit of Insurrection</title><content type='html'>Have you seen the "&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/spirit.of.insurrection.htm"&gt;Spirit of Insurrection&lt;/a&gt;" &lt;em&gt;in the &lt;u&gt;church&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/spirit.of.insurrection.htm"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8335877740082018581?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8335877740082018581/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8335877740082018581' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8335877740082018581'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8335877740082018581'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/spirit-of-insurrection.html' title='The Spirit of Insurrection'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5018055037354644384</id><published>2009-09-13T16:15:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:43:32.352-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #2: The First 8 years --1898-1905</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.2.htm"&gt;first eight years after founding &lt;/a&gt;the Pilgrim Holinesss Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5018055037354644384?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5018055037354644384/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5018055037354644384' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5018055037354644384'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5018055037354644384'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/pilgrim-holiness-history-2-1898-1905.html' title='PHC #2: The First 8 years --1898-1905'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1378559346902051342</id><published>2009-09-06T18:02:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:43:04.214-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><title type='text'>PHC #1: Founding of the Pilgrim Holiness Church</title><content type='html'>I've been reflecting on the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.1.htm"&gt;founding of The Pilgrim Holiness Church&lt;/a&gt;... this is what I think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;So, what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Drury&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1378559346902051342?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1378559346902051342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1378559346902051342' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1378559346902051342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1378559346902051342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/founding-of-pilgrim-holiness-church.html' title='PHC #1: Founding of the Pilgrim Holiness Church'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3103556052436246913</id><published>2009-09-06T18:00:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:40:07.687-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='camp meeting'/><title type='text'>Camp Meetings survival secret</title><content type='html'>Here is what I think is the secret to &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/camp.meeting.survival.htm"&gt;Camp Meetings survival&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;What do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;keith drury&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3103556052436246913?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3103556052436246913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3103556052436246913' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3103556052436246913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3103556052436246913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/camp-meetings-survival-secret.html' title='Camp Meetings survival secret'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8499534155186540339</id><published>2009-09-04T16:08:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T14:40:36.940-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Doctrine of Entitlement</title><content type='html'>I run into the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/doctrine.of.entitlement.htm"&gt;Doctrine of Entitlement &lt;/a&gt;fairly often--have you seen it too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;so, What do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8499534155186540339?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8499534155186540339/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8499534155186540339' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8499534155186540339'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8499534155186540339'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/09/doctrine-of-entitlement.html' title='Doctrine of Entitlement'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6460081799090535768</id><published>2009-04-26T14:53:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:25:30.566-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='summers'/><title type='text'>Gone Cycling for the Summer</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I'm gone &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/bike.trails.without.cars.htm"&gt;cycling for the summer&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;If you have any other bike trails to add to my list--let me know.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(The Tuesday Column will be back by the last week of August)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6460081799090535768?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6460081799090535768/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6460081799090535768' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6460081799090535768'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6460081799090535768'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/04/gone-cycling-for-summer.html' title='Gone Cycling for the Summer'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8560955748037809436</id><published>2009-04-20T17:56:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:25:51.173-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='seminary'/><title type='text'>What I know of IWU's new Seminary</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Here's what I know about &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/IWU.seminary.htm"&gt;IWU's new seminary&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8560955748037809436?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8560955748037809436/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8560955748037809436' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8560955748037809436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8560955748037809436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/04/what-i-know-of-iwus-new-seminary.html' title='What I know of IWU&apos;s new Seminary'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2722458532429271603</id><published>2009-04-12T18:51:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-12T18:53:11.737-04:00</updated><title type='text'>How to read a book in 10 minutes</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;As a minister how do you keep up with the virtual flood of Christian books?&lt;br /&gt;Here's one way--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/How.to.Read.a.Book.in.10.Minutes.htm"&gt;How to read a book in 10 minutes.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What tips would you add?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2722458532429271603?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2722458532429271603/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2722458532429271603' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2722458532429271603'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2722458532429271603'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-read-book-in-10-minutes.html' title='How to read a book in 10 minutes'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3177577929621834506</id><published>2009-04-05T15:33:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:26:12.217-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Students'/><title type='text'>How real-world ministry differs from college life</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;What would you add to this grid describing&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/real.life.ministry.htm"&gt; how real-world adult ministry differs from college life&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3177577929621834506?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3177577929621834506/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3177577929621834506' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3177577929621834506'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3177577929621834506'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-real-world-ministry-differs-from.html' title='How real-world ministry differs from college life'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8987674535846093745</id><published>2009-03-28T19:34:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:26:34.503-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='education'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Students'/><title type='text'>New models of Ministerial EDUCATION &amp; TRAINING</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Charlie Alcock and Keith Drury thinking about new models of &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/education.training.htm"&gt;ministerial EDUCATION and ministerial TRAINING&lt;/a&gt;. in light of emerging adulthood.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8987674535846093745?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8987674535846093745/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8987674535846093745' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8987674535846093745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8987674535846093745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-models-of-ministerial-education.html' title='New models of Ministerial EDUCATION &amp; TRAINING'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4680176731835579030</id><published>2009-03-22T17:34:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:26:49.724-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Students'/><title type='text'>Discipling Democrats</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/discipling.democrats.htm"&gt;DISCIPLING DEMOCRATS&lt;/a&gt;: How "Helicopter parents" might be discipling their children to expect "helicopter Government."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;So what do YOU think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4680176731835579030?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4680176731835579030/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4680176731835579030' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4680176731835579030'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4680176731835579030'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/03/discipling-democrats.html' title='Discipling Democrats'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2731789154717622184</id><published>2009-03-15T16:46:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:27:04.577-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Students'/><title type='text'>The New Youth ministry: Emerging Adulthood?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I wonder if the new youth ministry of the future will be with a brand new stage of development: &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/emerging.adulthood.htm"&gt;Emerging Adulthood&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2731789154717622184?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2731789154717622184/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2731789154717622184' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2731789154717622184'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2731789154717622184'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-youth-ministry-emerging-adulthood.html' title='The New Youth ministry: Emerging Adulthood?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5387554986648262815</id><published>2009-03-08T16:56:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:27:18.973-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><title type='text'>How we came to ordain homosexuals</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;So what would &lt;u&gt;&lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/u&gt; say to the people respresented in this denomination describing "&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/homosexual.ordination.happened.htm"&gt;How we came to ordain practicing homosexuals&lt;/a&gt;?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5387554986648262815?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5387554986648262815/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5387554986648262815' title='32 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5387554986648262815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5387554986648262815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-we-came-to-ordain-homosexuals.html' title='How we came to ordain homosexuals'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>32</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1798472825401874895</id><published>2009-02-27T20:25:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:27:31.000-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><title type='text'>Five Styles of Grandparenting</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Five styles of &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/grandparenting.htm"&gt;grandparenting&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1798472825401874895?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1798472825401874895/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1798472825401874895' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1798472825401874895'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1798472825401874895'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/02/styles-of-grandparenting.html' title='Five Styles of Grandparenting'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-2648568803221703910</id><published>2009-02-21T10:09:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:27:44.542-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><title type='text'>How DARE you have 8 children--let alone 14?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;We church leaders should probably ponder the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/life.without.children.htm"&gt;shift in society toward child-free adulthood &lt;/a&gt;and its implications for the church. Read the article --then make some contribution to collective thinking if you are willing to help us all grapple with this trend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-2648568803221703910?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/2648568803221703910/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=2648568803221703910' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2648568803221703910'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/2648568803221703910'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-dare-you-have-8-chidlren-let-alone.html' title='How DARE you have 8 children--let alone 14?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6639590277803842133</id><published>2009-02-15T16:38:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:28:01.291-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastor&apos;s wife'/><title type='text'>Role of the Pastor's Wife?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;I've been thinking about the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pastors.wife.htm"&gt;role of a "Pastor's wife"&lt;/a&gt; ... I wonder what you think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6639590277803842133?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6639590277803842133/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6639590277803842133' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6639590277803842133'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6639590277803842133'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/02/role-of-pastors-wife.html' title='Role of the Pastor&apos;s Wife?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1005641103231173629</id><published>2009-02-08T17:16:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:28:18.319-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wesleyan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gamblling'/><title type='text'>Wesleyans Oppose Gambling? You bet!</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;So &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/gambling.htm"&gt;Wesleyans oppose gambling&lt;/a&gt;--should they still oppose it? If so how much?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1005641103231173629?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1005641103231173629/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1005641103231173629' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1005641103231173629'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1005641103231173629'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/02/do-wesleyans-oppose-gambling-you-bet.html' title='Wesleyans Oppose Gambling? You bet!'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-5600071220329699317</id><published>2009-02-01T17:26:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-02-01T17:28:09.243-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Welcome to Middle Age!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;Just in case you are in your low 30's--here are the "12 steps" ahead of you for the next 30 years--"&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/development.middle.age.htm"&gt;middle adulthood&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-5600071220329699317?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/5600071220329699317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=5600071220329699317' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5600071220329699317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/5600071220329699317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/02/welcome-to-middle-age.html' title='Welcome to Middle Age!'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-6819965888305864715</id><published>2009-01-25T17:56:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:28:39.123-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelism; discipleship'/><title type='text'>I Stay Near the Bar</title><content type='html'>Is it time to &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/i.stay.near.the.bar.htm"&gt;revise Sam Shoemaker's poem&lt;/a&gt;? &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-6819965888305864715?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/6819965888305864715/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=6819965888305864715' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6819965888305864715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/6819965888305864715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/01/i-stay-near-bar.html' title='I Stay Near the Bar'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-9163217853472630228</id><published>2009-01-11T17:10:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-01-11T17:12:29.402-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What's Wrong with the Church?</title><content type='html'>I tried to think for a while like a complaining emergent and this is what I came up with--&lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/wrong.with.our.church.htm"&gt;What's Wrong With the Church&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;Tuesday Column by Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-9163217853472630228?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/9163217853472630228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=9163217853472630228' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/9163217853472630228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/9163217853472630228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/01/whats-wrong-with-church.html' title='What&apos;s Wrong with the Church?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3180623483314208265</id><published>2009-01-04T16:29:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-01-04T16:31:02.519-05:00</updated><title type='text'>10 New Year's Email Resolutions</title><content type='html'>Here are &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/email.resolutions.htm"&gt;10 email resolutions &lt;/a&gt;we all out to make..what would you add?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith Drury's Tuesday Column&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3180623483314208265?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3180623483314208265/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3180623483314208265' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3180623483314208265'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3180623483314208265'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2009/01/10-new-years-email-resolutions.html' title='10 New Year&apos;s Email Resolutions'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7499057248696263025</id><published>2008-12-28T16:55:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:28:54.946-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Women'/><title type='text'>A Magnificant Old Bag Lady</title><content type='html'>Six weeks after Christmas a &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/anna.2008.htm"&gt;magnificant old woman &lt;/a&gt;became the last of the Old Testament women prophets... and one of the the first of the New testament women disciples. Who is your church's "Anna?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Tuesday Column by keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7499057248696263025?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7499057248696263025/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7499057248696263025' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7499057248696263025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7499057248696263025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/12/magnificant-old-bag-lady.html' title='A Magnificant Old Bag Lady'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-231216178613135948</id><published>2008-12-20T15:18:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:29:10.056-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='christmas'/><title type='text'>Is Christmas a Pagan holiday?</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Where did Christmas come from? Is &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/christmas.history.pagan.htm"&gt;Christmas a pagan holiday&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Tuesday Column by Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-231216178613135948?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/231216178613135948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=231216178613135948' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/231216178613135948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/231216178613135948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/12/is-christmas-pagan-holiday.html' title='Is Christmas a Pagan holiday?'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-457248327969451384</id><published>2008-12-14T16:09:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T18:29:22.077-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='christmas'/><title type='text'>Christmas Gift for Your Pastor</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;Some of the ways Churches (and Christians) give a &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/christmas.gift.pastor.htm"&gt;Christmas gift to the pastor&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-457248327969451384?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/457248327969451384/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=457248327969451384' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/457248327969451384'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/457248327969451384'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/12/christmas-gift-for-your-pastor.html' title='Christmas Gift for Your Pastor'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4877278182889213830</id><published>2008-12-07T17:11:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:38:20.557-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sin'/><title type='text'>Sin in America</title><content type='html'>.&lt;br /&gt;To preachers it is interesting &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/sin.in.america.htm"&gt;what Americans consider sin&lt;/a&gt;. What thoughtful insights does this study prompt for you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4877278182889213830?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4877278182889213830/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4877278182889213830' title='29 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4877278182889213830'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4877278182889213830'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/12/sin-in-america.html' title='Sin in America'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>29</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-4075847839486331552</id><published>2008-11-30T15:00:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:38:52.640-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='generations'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boomers'/><title type='text'>Schuler Senior dumps Schuler Junior</title><content type='html'>When the money gets tight will the Boomers follow Papa Schuler's model and &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/schuler.revenge.htm"&gt;dump the younger generations&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-4075847839486331552?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/4075847839486331552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=4075847839486331552' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4075847839486331552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/4075847839486331552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/11/schuler-senior-dumps-schuler-junior.html' title='Schuler Senior dumps Schuler Junior'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1887719791490839974</id><published>2008-11-23T17:54:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:36:46.420-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sin'/><title type='text'>Going Off Sin Cold Turkey</title><content type='html'>31 years ago people went of sin like they went off cigarettes--using the &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/cold.turkey.sin.htm"&gt;Cold Turkey method,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1887719791490839974?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1887719791490839974/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1887719791490839974' title='24 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1887719791490839974'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1887719791490839974'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/11/going-off-sin-cold-turkey.html' title='Going Off Sin Cold Turkey'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>24</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-8676306266150172947</id><published>2008-11-16T17:25:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:37:33.896-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='future'/><title type='text'>Coming Changes in Publishing</title><content type='html'>There are massive &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/publication.changes.htm"&gt;changes coming in publication&lt;/a&gt;... what do you think about them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-8676306266150172947?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/8676306266150172947/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=8676306266150172947' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8676306266150172947'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/8676306266150172947'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/11/coming-changes-in-publishing.html' title='Coming Changes in Publishing'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-595024080532951669</id><published>2008-11-09T16:48:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:38:06.696-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holiness movement'/><title type='text'>I'm a liberal... and I admit it</title><content type='html'>Labels are touchy things... but &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/liberal.liberal.htm"&gt;I'm a liberal...&lt;em&gt;and I admit it&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;Keith Drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-595024080532951669?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/595024080532951669/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=595024080532951669' title='42 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/595024080532951669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/595024080532951669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/11/im-liberal-and-i-admit-it.html' title='I&apos;m a liberal... and I admit it'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>42</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-3095414598400241538</id><published>2008-11-01T17:42:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:39:29.050-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>Why Wesleyans Tilt Republican</title><content type='html'>Instead of discussing THIS election lets think about 165 years of why &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/wesleyans.tilt.republican.htm"&gt;Wesleyans tilt toward the Republicans &lt;/a&gt;in voting. Focus on &lt;em&gt;the church &lt;/em&gt;and social issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Immediate campaign comments will be deleted--I've done some hard research here, please honor it by giving thoughtful and insightful observations based on the past 165 years of history OK? ;-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-3095414598400241538?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/3095414598400241538/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=3095414598400241538' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3095414598400241538'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/3095414598400241538'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-wesleyans-tilt-republican.html' title='Why Wesleyans Tilt Republican'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-1011394034239927799</id><published>2008-10-26T15:25:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:39:54.063-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='economics'/><title type='text'>The Virtue of Selfishness</title><content type='html'>I was in college when Ayn Rands book first came out but now might be a good time to discuss again &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/virtue.selfishness.htm"&gt;her approach to Laissez-faire free market capitalism&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;keith drury&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-1011394034239927799?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/1011394034239927799/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=1011394034239927799' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1011394034239927799'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/1011394034239927799'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/10/virtue-of-selfishness.html' title='The Virtue of Selfishness'/><author><name>Keith Drury</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gii2qwrRLeo/TI4kg1eYzzI/AAAAAAAAATw/k-2pPAylTLA/S220/keith.drury.2010.jpg'/></author><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811538.post-7560347782986966525</id><published>2008-10-20T15:04:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-12-07T17:40:18.661-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>What will your church do with Obama-voters?</title><content type='html'>I'm thinking ahead--what will &lt;a href="http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/church.do.with.obama.voters.htm"&gt;evangelicals do with Obama-voters &lt;/a&gt;in three weeks?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8811538-7560347782986966525?l=keithdrury.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/feeds/7560347782986966525/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8811538&amp;postID=7560347782986966525' title='44 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7560347782986966525'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8811538/posts/default/7560347782986966525'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://keithdrury.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-will-your-church-do-with-obama.html' title='What will your church do with Obama-voters?'/><author><name>Keith 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